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What don't you like about certain basses.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by PhatBasstard, Jul 14, 2003.


  1. PhatBasstard

    PhatBasstard Spector Dissector Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2002
    Las Vegas, NV.
    This is not meant to be a bass bashing thread (like so many others that have been closed).

    This is meant to be constructive, for those of us who might be interested in a certain bass that we're unfamiliar with, and/or also to possibly give some feedback incase any particular manufacturers are looking in.

    I'll start:
    I love my Cirrus 6 except I wish the string spacing was a little wider (I believe it's about 17mm). I would prefer something closer to 19mm.

    I also wished they offered the Cirrus fretless without fretlines (except on custom order).

    I wish all basses had bridges that were quick release for easier string changes.

    There you go.....Vent!
     
  2. Razor

    Razor

    Sep 22, 2002
    Dallas
    Hmmmmm.........I wish Warmoth made P bass necks with the option of getting rolled necks.
    Also wish I could find more 5 strings with the tight string spacing like Dean basses.
     
  3. PhatBasstard

    PhatBasstard Spector Dissector Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2002
    Las Vegas, NV.
    Hey Razor (how's the Hartke holdin'up?).

    What's a "Rolled Neck"?
     
  4. Razor

    Razor

    Sep 22, 2002
    Dallas
    Well my friend...it's still doing very well. I must say that sucker is a power-house! It will be put into a backup rack shortly as I have just recieved an Ampeg SVP-1500 power amp and will be adding an SVP-Pro to go with it. Aside from the initial problem I had with the Hartke that little thing has really come through for me but my endless search for "the tone" has me changing my rig up now. It's good to know I have a reliable back-up though and I will be keeping it for that simple reason.
    Rolled edges refers to the top and bottom of the fretboard, the edges of the fretboard at each fret's tip. Most basses have a pronounced "sharpness" on the edges. I have a 78 P bass that originally was made like this but 25 years of playing on it kinda naturally sanded the edges to a smooth, rounded feel. I got used to that and now since I am trying more basses out I find I miss that quality. I have contacted many dealers of replacement necks and can't find any that make a neck with rolled edges. Only way I can figure to do it to an already fretted neck is to defret, sand the edges to a smooth, rounded feel, then refret....and that's way too much work, time, and money IMHO.
     
  5. PhatBasstard

    PhatBasstard Spector Dissector Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2002
    Las Vegas, NV.
    Thanks Razor,
    I've been playing professionally for almost 26yrs. and had never heard that term (and I'm a gear head).
     
  6. i dun like where conklin's upper horn strap button is,I think it should be on the tip...to me,it just doesn't look right.


    also,I dislike how Jazzes neck pick-up is pretty far in the bass making it hard to use as a finger rest,same thing goes with the Fender P bass...


    I think thats it...I may think of some later,but thats just it for now:meh:

    -Jon:oops:
     
  7. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I like nearkly everything about the "high-end" Warwicks I've tried - especially Streamers - except :

    The necks are too thick, front to back - making them just unplayable for me - well extremely uncomfortable!! :(

    I also thought Cirrus basses looked great from photos - but was very disappointed when I actually saw one for real - to narrow and small and just "cheap"-looking - didn't like them at all.
     
  8. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Of the ones I had. SR5, B not clear enough. Sad, lacked the hifi sound I like. Cirrus, not enough horsepower. Elrick, too long. Lakland, liked only one sound of so many. Present bass nails all the above.
     
  9. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    About the only think I dislike is the Jazz width nut. 1.5" is just too narrow for my meat hands, and that's what the majority of 4 string necks are. I dig 1.65" or better, but few 4 strings seem to have that... Obviously they are out there, but not in the droves the J nutted basses are
     
  10. xush

    xush

    Jul 4, 2001
    mobile AL
    Have you played one like that though, Jon?
    It made a believer out of me, now I do that on my customs where appropriate. It really pulls the bass in close and let's the strap lie flat.
    I really like it.
     
  11. no,I never played one...and I'm sure it's very comfortable,and prob better then then having it at the tip....but I just dislike the look of it.

    -Jon:oops:
     
  12. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Yeah. I didn't get it either untill Gard explain the benifit of a back-horned strap. I think they're really keen, myself.
     
  13. lamarjones

    lamarjones Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    Things that are important to me.

    String spacing (#1 priority!)
    Distance of neck pickup to neck (need some space
    to get in there for finger rolls)
    Weight (#2 priority!)
    Electronics need to be good, and of course options help.
    Neck thickness (like it slim)

    And then comes looks.
     
  14. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Am I strange in that I like wide spacing at the nut, but narrow spacing at the bridge? Narrow being about approximately 17mm instead of the "wide" 19mm.

    I think my Spector is 16.5mm, and I really, really like that, but I'd like it a tad wider at the nut (45mm-1.75"-11/16-P bass width), maybe 50mm.
     
  15. Razor

    Razor

    Sep 22, 2002
    Dallas
    #1 priority....comfortable neck.
    I could play on a piece of sheet metal if I had to, as long as the neck is comfy. I like narrow spacing and my preference is somewhere between a J and P neck (with rolled edges of course ;) )
    Probably my absolute favorite neck, stock, are the 4 string Spectors. Closest feel to my 78 P neck I have found.
    #2 priority......electronics, the simpler the better. I get confused on some of these active basses with 1000 knobs and switches. I'd like a volume knob and everything else is up to the amp.
    #3 priority.........balance/weight. Don't think much explanation is needed on this one.
     
  16. My beef isnt exactly that big of a deal. I love Fenders(its all i play)
    But what ticks me off is that their colour/finnish selection is very poor.
    There is no excuse Fender can give me for this. If you look at the colour charts on their website, they give lots of colour options they can produce...yet they only make about 6 available to any model at a time.
    Told ya my beef wasnt a big deal haha.
     
  17. Taylor Livingston

    Taylor Livingston Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    Louisiana, US
    Owner, Iron Ether Electronics
    I'm with you there, though probably for different reasons. ;)

    Narrow bridge spacing makes it easier to play fast chords, and is generally more comfortable for picking, and no less comfortable for fingerstyle. If I was playing metal, and wanted to pummel my strings, I would want wider bridge spacing, but that's rare.

    My guess is that you wouldn't touch a chord with a 10-foot pole, based on the things you've said around here, but we agree on spacing.

    And, Razor, I, too hate "sharp" necks. I hope I can convey that well with my custom guy.
     
  18. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Uh, what gave you the impression I don't play chords? Shoot, that's one of the reasons I like a narrower bridge. It gives the strings a narrower width at the end of the fretboard, where I like to play my chords at.

    I do play metal, and do pummel the strings, but I find a slightly narrower bridge to work better for my tastes.
     
  19. Taylor Livingston

    Taylor Livingston Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    Louisiana, US
    Owner, Iron Ether Electronics
    To quote Stuart Smalley, "Never assume, because when you assume, you make an ass out of Uma Thurman."

    Sorry about that. The fact that you do the BEAD thing (which I've done too, but didn't use it much) and say that guitars cover the G-string range, meaning it's not necessary on a bass just got my brain filling in the spaces. Anyway, mein bad!
     
  20. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    No worries. It's a matter of practicality. Usually (I'm speaking of metal here) guitar player, especially when you have a lead and rhythm guitarist, they usually cover up through the D string doing melodies, counter melodies, and solos. Even if you're doing a killer slap on pop riff, the only way the G really gets heard through the wall of noise that is a death metal band going full tilt is if the song is built around the sounds coming from the G string.

    But, hey, that's IME.