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What effect is this? Spring Theory

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by GentProvocateur, May 7, 2017.


  1. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Anyone know if this effect (under Experimental Guitar effects) has a pedal equivalent? Here's a screenshot of the controls:
    Screen Shot 2017-05-07 at 8.13.04 PM.

    And a sound clip:


    Sounds like a tremolo, bit crusher thing, delay, and reverb. It gets a little tedious if the controls are kept the same, but is great when 'manually' moving the 'knobs', so if there's an expression pedal input that would be amazing.

    Anything like this exist in a single pedal format?
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2017
  2. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Monday bump with more samples:

    Basic track with delay and verb already added:


    Track with Squelch turned on. This is the effect's main thing. If there's a pedal that can do this (plus maybe the tremolo), I'd be set:


    Same track with Squelch, Tremolo, and Echo all engaged:
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2017
  3. TheEmptyCell

    TheEmptyCell Bearded Dingwall Enthusiast

    Jul 16, 2005
    Belfast, UK
    Sounds like a drunken spring reverb.
     
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  4. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Ha! Great description. I think with an expression pedal it could move away from goofy
     
  5. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    I'm not afraid to keep bumping this (or adding stock memes) until I get an answer
    dont test me.
     
  6. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Let's do away with the stock and rocket into 100% bona fide original:

    "It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to make tuna salad without mayo."
    albacore dumbledore v2.

    I apologize for potentially derailing my own thread.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2017
  7. Taylor Livingston

    Taylor Livingston Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    Oregon, US
    Owner, Iron Ether Electronics
    It sounds similar to something I prototyped years ago out of curiosity: a pitch shifter where the instantaneous pitch shift amount is controlled by the input waveform. So imagine that on every single cycle of your signal, the pitch is shifted up increasingly on the positive part of the wave, and down increasingly on the negative half of the wave.

    It was vaguely ring mod-ish, with some dynamic control because the larger the input signal's amplitude, the more pitch shift up and down. The GarageBand version sounds much better and less ridiculous than that, though.

    I think you could get in the ballpark with a delay that has envelope control, like the MidFi Electronics Clarinot.
     
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  8. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Boom! Many thanks Taylor, I'm checking it out now
     
  9. reddesert

    reddesert

    Mar 19, 2015
    It sounds similar to certain sounds that happen when you change the delay time knob of a delay while echoes are still playing. (This may depend on the delay type and mode - it only seems to work in the "Tape" mode of my Digidelay.) So you might look into modulated delays or reverbs, where the delay time is modified by an oscillator, which can get you that drunk effect sound.

    Here's a couple of examples - I don't own either of these pedals, try listening to the demos.

    Earthquaker Space Spiral: Space Spiral
    Mid-Fi Clari(not): Organ Drone
     
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  10. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    I'm hearing the similarities, but it's pretty different. The Redpanda Particle on delay LFO mode is getting close me thinks
     
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  11. 254 stringer

    254 stringer

    Apr 15, 2010
    Waco Texas
    While not 100 percent the same you may be able to get some similar sounds out of the way huge ringworm.
     
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  12. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    Hmm yeah, wonder what it would sound like with delay and reverb before it. It's not as 'swirly' as the Squelch sound and cuts off when the note ends
     
  13. 254 stringer

    254 stringer

    Apr 15, 2010
    Waco Texas
    I checked the plugins on the spring theory and it looks like you need several pedals to recreate the sound.
    IMG_0960.JPG
    It has the standard noise gate then the pedalboard has a comp and a rat.
    IMG_0961.JPG
    The tremolo is coming from the amp sim.
    IMG_0962.JPG
    Then you get to ringshifter. The squelch knob controlled the dry/wet mix of this. I googled ringshifter and it said it's a ring mod and frequency shifter. Then I googled ringshifter pedal and the first thing that popped up was EHX Ring Thing. I'm not familiar with that pedal but it may get you closer to the sound your looking for. Then of course it had a generic echo plugin and another comp plugin.
    IMG_0963.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2017
  14. GentProvocateur

    GentProvocateur Supporting Member

    *fire*

    Didn't know about the plugin windows in GB! Thanks for taking all those screenshots and walking through it. Not surprising that the tremolo comes from the amp sim since it affects the dry and wet signal equally. Surprised by the dirt before the ringshifter but that makes a lot of sense.
     
  15. 254 stringer

    254 stringer

    Apr 15, 2010
    Waco Texas
    No problem man hope it helps out.