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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by colors, Sep 14, 2008.
got me stumped, anyone?
JP-90 or Jazz Special or something. I can't remember off hand. Duff McKagan's signature is based off of it.
Looks like either a p-bass special, or a lyte. Time for a more qualified Fender person to come along and verify that.
I don't think it's a Lyte, it's more likely a Duff McKagan signiature.
EDIT: Actually, the Duff sig has a black headstock so probably not. That model seems to have a different shape than most, so it could be a wierd model fender did when cbs started to take over. Do you know how old it is?
the duff signature has a black headstock though, i think
I don't believe it's a Duff, me thinks it predates the actual Duff sig. The Duff has a Black painted headstock, characteristic of the J-bass special (CIJ).
Jazz bass special = originally what Duff's is. Me thinks it's a P special w/out pickguard.
Yeah as soon as i posted mine I googled it and edited my post.
yeah it seems that all of the japan basses have black headstocks and all of the lyte's have four volume/tone knobs. thanks for the info thusfar.
Told you all I knew what it was
1990s P Bass Deluxe people.
It is the J9-90
It is not a JP-90. It is a made in Mexico Precision Special Deluxe as GobBass and Alembicplyr have noted. It is affectionately known as the "Cowpoke". If you look closely you can see the screw holes for the original pickguard which was similar to an original p_bass pickguard.
I seem to recall the cowpoke P-Basses have PGs with a big ugly CNC hole under them.
-Former Cowpoke owner
I would say JP-90, I used to have a black one back in the early 90's.
1990s Precision Bass Plus Deluxe to give it its full title.
Its the stacked knobs that give it away.
Yup. The JP-90 and the Cowpoke are just about the same bass. The Japanes Jazz Bass Special (Duff) is a different animal. Fender seemed to keep changing the cosmetics and name on this bass, probably trying to improve sales. I think all the basses in this "line" have downsized headstocks. IMHO, these are pretty good basses.
I take it back, maybe. I see pickguard screwholes in the cowpoke position. Can't remember the official name of the cowpoke, and I'm not sure if mine has the cnc hole under the pickguard.
EDIT: Mine did NOT have a CNC hole. KPJ saying Precision Special Deluxe sounds familiar.
EDIT: Sorry for the resurrection here. I'm typing before my morning coffee here. As you were.
Please start listening to Modo76. He knows of what he speaks.
Also the cowpoke(Mexican Precision Deluxe) is a totally different beast from the JP-90. The JP-90 was an American made jazz precision hybrid that was the budget American(Think HW-1) of the time. It's body cuts were more angular and required less machining, and as I recall it was only available in solid colors so lower quality body woods were needed. It was also passive.
The Cowpoke was the upper end Mexican Precision that was active and had stacked knobs(Volume-Blend, Bass-treble). It was available in black, white, blonde, red, and Sunburst, and had a standard precision sized body.
Both had 22-Fret neck jazz necks and were only available with rosewood boards if my memory serves me.
The bass the OP showed was the American Precision Deluxe plus. It had a smaller precision style body, Lace Sensors, and no pickguard.
The truth of the matter is that all three came out at about the same time, but the interest in Vintage basses was peaking simultaneously. Buyers were not interested in Fenders that did not look vintage and none of them made very good sales. Quickly Fender reverted to Traditional appearing instruments with much greater success.
look closely at the pic- you can see holes where the scratchplate screws were-
it's a cowpoke Mex Precision Special.
also it's got a standard tinplate bridge and pickups with visible polepieces- whereas the US Precision Plus Deluxe had a heavy cast bridge with fine tuners, and plain covered Lace Sensor pickups.
Though the issue of what bass the OP was asking about is most likely resolved, the Fender P Lyte looks like this:
The cutaways are much smaller and the body mass / weight is reduced significantly by some really nice contouring.