What gauge would you recomend for downtuning my Ibanez Mikro to C-F-A#-D#?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by NoiseNinja, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
    Helpful, and yet hilarious...
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  2. wintremute

    wintremute mediocrity at its finest

    Oct 16, 2014
    Endorsing Artist: Langstrom Carrot Farms
    This thread feels like Monday, but it's Wednesday.
  3. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    I would suggest you take that route today :smug:
    Of course it's ironic, we're indignant at your indignance.

    Instead of attacking, you could have just taken the tools we gave you and figured it out for yourself.
    but human nature prevailed
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  4. JACink


    Mar 9, 2011
    This is most definitely sig worthy!
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  5. five7

    five7 Supporting Member

    Dec 5, 2009
    One option, buy every set of strings that are made for every stringed instrument and try them all until you find ones that work.
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  6. wintremute

    wintremute mediocrity at its finest

    Oct 16, 2014
    Endorsing Artist: Langstrom Carrot Farms
  7. PullThePlug


    Jan 8, 2014
    Hello OP! Simply buy 5 string set, remove the high g string, and use the bottom four. You will want a .120 or .125 for your low string (.125 is probably best, as this is short scale).
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  8. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    At the risk of suffering some of the OP's very freely-given ire, I'll chime in and note that I used a set of D'Addario EXL160S strings in .050-.105 to tune my MiKro to drop C. I'd imagine that may work for C standard, as OP has stated a preference for floppy strings.

    I'd also recommend emailing the good folks at Stringjoy to see if they might help.

    ::calmly raises shields::
  9. bassistjoe93

    bassistjoe93 Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2011
    This is a fantastic thread :laugh:
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  10. This whole thread just reads like: "Can I get some help here?" And then "No, not like that, you're helping me wrong!"
  11. Rayjay

    Rayjay If that’s even my real name..

    Sep 27, 2014
    Lahaina, Maui, HI
    Sorry to bust up this love fest, but OP - would you please change the post to read "C F Bb Eb".......its really setting off my OCD. OK, party on!
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  12. Does Stringjoy make strings short enough to fit the Mikro? I think anything over .105 might snap at the tuning peg if the string is too long
  13. JACink


    Mar 9, 2011
    Is there a reason it should be shown "Bb Eb" instead of "A# D#"?

    I first learned the notes all by their # names and then the first time I came across the circle of fifths referred to in b's it confused the heck out of me and it took me some effort to relearn.

    I am just wondering if one of these is actually officially correct, as I see different teachers and players use the different terms?
  14. Rayjay

    Rayjay If that’s even my real name..

    Sep 27, 2014
    Lahaina, Maui, HI
    With C as the starting point, the strings are tuned in 4ths (basses are usually tuned in 4ths, but starting on E).

    Go up 4 letters. C, D, E, F. That's how we got to a note called "F" weather it be F natural, F sharp, or F flat (that's why there's an F# in a C lydian scale, with an augmented 4th degree)

    Now go up 4 letters from F - F, G, A, B - whatever the value of the 4th degree from F, will be a "B" something - in this case Bb

    4 letters again - B, C, D, E - so Eb

    Circle of 4ths, in other words, we just aren't circling around the whole way

    Another way of looking at it....the key of Bb has 2 flats. The key of A# has 10 sharps - that's 10 sharps for 7 notes (C##, F##, and G##). That's just insanity, even though it's technically correct. Keep it simple - call it Bb.

    Enharmonics are notes who share a frequency value but are called by different names. C = B# = Dbb = A### and so on. Use the simplest name at any given time.
  15. Uncle Hanky

    Uncle Hanky

    May 10, 2017
    I'm not 100% certain, but I think people have already done enough of OP's research for him.
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  16. I was actually asking because I just purchased a 28.6" scale ESP fiver :)

    The stock strings have a chorusing effect, possibly from lack of tension...I've got some short scale Jamersons on the way though!
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  17. ixlramp


    Jan 25, 2005
    Useful string physics rough rule: For 2 strings at equal tension, the ratio of gauges will be roughly equal to the ratio of frequencies.
    So multiply your current gauges by 1.26 (the frequency multiplier for 4 semitones).
    .040, .060,.075,.095 ->
    .050, .075, .095, .120

    But anyway, good to see you have ordered a more balanced set.
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2017
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