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What is Good Music?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by j_sun23, Jul 17, 2003.

  1. j_sun23


    Feb 24, 2003
    Baton Rouge LA
    What is Good Music?

    I know there are a billion different ways to answer this, but I think it's an interesting question whose answer may have interesting reprocussions in other areas of thought.

    I won't say any more yet.

    Let me know what you think.
  2. anything jammable
  3. mans0n


    Jun 15, 2002
    music that makes me want to play a bass guitar or sing
  4. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Mozart's Symphonies 40 and 41 are good music. I also like his piano concertos 20 and 21 (especially 20). The Who's "Quardophenia" is good also, as is The Clash's "Combat Rock". Other good music is Miles Davis' "Kind Of Blue" record, as well as Mingus' "Ah Um". A Tribe Called Quest's "The Low End Theory" is good music as well. Just about anything Duke Ellington wrote could be considered "good". How 'bout Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue"? That's good! There's a lot more good music than just that though. Good music is everywhere. Unfortunately so is bad music. :) ... and some bad music is very enjoyable!
  5. moley


    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    Then why do you call it bad? :confused:
  6. KB


    Jan 13, 2000
    Chapel Hill, NC
    music that stand up over time and is not just a flash-in-the-pan-crapfest pop thing. If you can come back in 5 or 10 years and still enjoy the music then that is good music.
  7. This is the wrong question.

    Good music is subject to one's taste.

    A better question, still subjective of course, would be:

    What makes something "musical".
  8. Stephen S

    Stephen S Member

    Apr 10, 2002
    San Bernardino, CA
    Whatever you enjoy. There is no music that is equally good to all humans. You might have your reasons for thinking the music you listen to is good and someone else could hate that music for that same reasons you like it.
  9. fastplant


    Sep 26, 2002
    Party All The Time by Eddie Murphy is good music.
  10. pkr2


    Apr 28, 2000
    coastal N.C.
    Right on! If it is still around in 40 or 50 years or more, it's good music.

    Only good music can stand the test of time,

  11. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    Good music evokes an emotional response from the listener.
  12. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    I would argue that there's lots of good music that won't stand the test of time simply because it's too unusual or abrasive for most people's taste.
  13. Since "good music" is purely subjective, here's my definition and examples...

    "Good Music" is any song that takes me someplace I enjoy, somewhere away from my present state of mind. It can be any of several styles... usually jazz or new-age, often times soul, sometimes classical, and rock and funk. The one style that I find myself getting lost in the most, is contemporary jazz.

    Jazz - Neil Larsen, Spyro Gyra, Rippingtons
    Soul- Sade
    Classical - Mozart[​IMG]
    Funk - just about any of it

    And that, my friends, is good muzik to meee.


  14. j_sun23


    Feb 24, 2003
    Baton Rouge LA
    Well, with the exception of Machaut (sort of), you all seem to talk about what good music is "to you".

    So, is music's "goodness" all completely and purely subjective? Can you ever say something is bad music beyond the fact that you don't like it? I mean, pure subjectivity would imply that anything is equally as good as anything else, which seems to leave a bad taste in my mouth if truly considered as the reality.

    On the flipside, if there is some objectively "good" music, where does that qualification come from? What would qualify one piece of music as good and another as bad, other than whether you as an individual like it or not?

    Really consider it. If you say it's all subjective, then it's ALL good, even those flash-in-the-pan-crapfest pop things, because SOMEONE likes it. Any if you say that there is objectively good music, external to you and I and our personal tastes, what qualifies it as good music,and where does that qualification originate from?

    And Machaut, to take up your question, what makes something "musical" and how is that different from "good"?

    keep it going. I want answers :)
  15. j_sun23


    Feb 24, 2003
    Baton Rouge LA
  16. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Feel good music, I've been told, is good for the body, and good for the soul.
  17. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Funny, bad music usually evokes stronger responses... ;)
  18. Matthew Bryson

    Matthew Bryson Guest

    Jul 30, 2001
    Well this is definitely a subjective thing. I'm going to give the easy answer and say that good music is what ever turns you on. I don't feel it even has to stand the test of time...if you are digging a tune right now - then it must be good. If you get tired of that tune a year from now and can't stand hearing it, then I'd say you used to think it was good, but then you changed your mind and don't find it good.
  19. IMO, yes. I'm happy to answer your question, but not in the mood to debate (if that's what you want :D ...[​IMG]

    MMMMmmmmmaybe someone else is up for a debate...

  20. j_sun23


    Feb 24, 2003
    Baton Rouge LA
    Well, I didn't really want to debate either as I have no good answer due to the reasons I stated in my last post. I really wanted to put this out there and see if anyone HAD figured it out, or COULD.

    What I did want is some explanation or justification (if possible) of why people think one way or the other. I don't know that there's a right or wrong answer, but there's certainly some great discussion fuel here.

    It's easy to say quality is subjective, cause I like this and you like that. But when you take that thought to its end, you arrive at everything being "good". Would anyone accept that?

    And if you take the low road and say that there is an objective standard for good music, well that's a whole nother can o' worms.

    Speaking from my own perspective (which I think many of you may share), sometimes I catch myself applauding or dismissing music as if I was some sort of authority on what good music is. I'm not talking about the usual difference of opinion or taste. I'm talking about hearing something that I think has no redemptive qualities whatsoever, the kind of thing that just makes you go "man, this is ****ty".

    I also feel like I can listen to a piece of music that might be something I really DON'T like listening to, but I feel like I can still say whether it's good or bad, irrespective of my musical tastes. Surely some of you know what I'm talking about.

    Well, think about those times, those occasions when you heard some music that you didn't just "not like", but also thought was actually "bad". If you know what I'm talking about and are brave enough to admit it, How do you account for thinking that the music was bad? Not why did you not like the music, but why do you think that it was an example of "bad music" (beyond your personal likes and dislikes).

    I've thought about this and I can't really figure it out. It's usually an intuitive feeling I have about whether something's good or bad, and that is hardly being objective, yet it seems like there is an objective quality (be it good or bad) beyond my own personal subjective experience.

    I'm getting long winded so I'll stop and save some for later.