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What is Groove?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by SidMau, Oct 12, 2013.

  1. SidMau


    Sep 3, 2012
    How would you define a groove? What sets a good groove apart from a bad one? Not looking for a standardized answer, just want to know how everyone out there individually interprets what 'groove' is.
  2. bass12

    bass12 Say "Ahhh"... Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Repetitive sonic motion that feels good and easy. Comes in all forms. :D
  3. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    Groove for me starts at !:19
  4. 48thStreetCustom


    Nov 30, 2005
  5. jchrisk1

    jchrisk1 Supporting Member

    Nov 15, 2009
    Northern MI
    To me, groove is when you are no longer trying to play. You just hear it and it sounds good.
  6. For me bass12 hit on a key component, so did Duuuuude. For me it's a feeling of effortless forward motion, a sense of easy propulsion, and an elastic cohesion between the musicians. It feels good!
  7. atomicdog


    Jun 18, 2011
    It's the feel of the song.

    From Wikipedia: Groove is the sense of propulsive rhythmic "feel" or sense of "swing" created by the interaction of the music played by a band's rhythm section (drums, electric bass or double bass, guitar, and keyboards). Ubiquitous in popular music, groove is a consideration in genres such as salsa, funk, rock, fusion, and soul. The word is often used to describe the aspect of certain music that makes one want to move, dance, or "groove".

    Characteristic rock groove: "bass drum on beats 1 and 3 and snare drum on beats 2 and 4 of the measure...add eighth notes on the hi-hat".[1] Play (helpĀ·info). Musicologists and other scholars began to analyze the concept of "groove" in the 1990s. They have argued that a "groove" is an "understanding of rhythmic patterning" or "feel" and "an intuitive sense" of "a cycle in motion" that emerges from "carefully aligned concurrent rhythmic patterns" that sets in motion dancing or foot-tapping on the part of listeners. The term "groove" was taken from the groove of a vinyl record, meaning the track cut in the lathe that makes a record.
  8. Milk


    Sep 16, 2013
    Montreal, Canada
    Ask Madonna. In the 80's she was urging us to get into it.
  9. Awesome Sauce

    Awesome Sauce Already tired tomorrow

    Dec 21, 2011
    NW Chicago 'burbs
    I have no answer for this thread, but I'd like to take this opportunity to derail it and suggest that pedulla-2007 post as much as humanly possible. :bag: :hyper:

    Also, avatar changes are henceforth verboten and punishable by extensive dental work w/o anesthesia. :ninja:

    Thank you, that is all.

  10. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 20, 2004
    Madison WI
    HPF Technology LLC
    Playing in a way that compliments the rhythmic style of the music.
  11. JohnMCA72


    Feb 4, 2009
    It's a rhythmic feel that just draws you along with it. Not necessarily repetitive - at least not 100% accurately - some variation is not only permitted, but actually almost essential. Like the waves on the ocean, that may come from many different directions at once, with different frequencies & amplitudes, yout combined provide a sense of movement beyond what your basic senses can detect.
  12. ggunn


    Aug 30, 2006
    Austin, TX
    I can't really define it, but when the drummer and I are in it, we know.
  13. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    +1 and I hope he has an answer for everything I post!
  14. GlennW


    Sep 6, 2006
    Groove is what makes Mustang Sally the classic that it is.

    Lack of groove is what makes Mustang Sally sound like crap.
  15. Cycho


    Nov 30, 2010
    You know when the drummer surprises you on the one beat, the guitarist seems to be speeding up, and the soloist seems kind of lost? Groove is the opposite of that.
  16. markorbit


    Apr 16, 2004
    Groove to me is when musicians play around the beat rather than robotically on it all the time. Some notes are early, others are on the beat, others are late... some notes are softer or accented... the combination makes a groove. :bassist:
  17. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 20, 2004
    Madison WI
    HPF Technology LLC
    I think the sense of "propulsion" or "forward movement" comes closest to describing it. And it's not limited to popular music. My son's cello teacher was explaining it in terms of the Bach cello suites.
  18. Thisguy


    Sep 28, 2013
    Abilene TX
    I laughed!

    Groove is in the heart. Or at least that's what Deee-Light told us in the 90's
  19. hsech

    hsech Work hard. My Social Security needs a raise.

    Jun 27, 2012
    Central Iowa
    Drums and Bass in synchronization creating a smooth, flowing rhythm.
  20. ggunn


    Aug 30, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Being in the groove is a little like being in orbit. It goes on and on, moving without effort, and I would be content to ride in it indefinitely. Oh, wait... is that a rut? :D

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