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What is the advantages of Single Cut Basses?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Hevy T, Jan 22, 2017.


  1. Hevy T

    Hevy T Supporting Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Lethbridge, AB Canada
    Sorry but I don't care for any of the designs that are out there. I personally think they look heavy and awkward!

    The only advantage I can see is there might be more stability in the neck with all that extra wood going all the way up to the 12th fret!

    You won't win me over with the looks of these things, but help me understand them better!!

    thx
     
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  2. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    Pretty sure it's really just about looks.
     
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  3. el_Bajo_Verde

    el_Bajo_Verde

    May 18, 2016
    USA
    Uh-oh..."Help me understand" rears it's ugly head again...

    popcorn_yes.

    It's just all about preference. This topic has come up many times.
     
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  4. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Wikipedia often mistakes my opinions for fact Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2011
    The feeling or sentiment is itself an aesthetic or moral discrimination. It is prior to, and the basis of, any subsequent expression of praise or admiration. The sentiment is the beauty of the object and it is the virtue of desirable human action. Sentiment is the sole source of values governing human activity. Taste is a “productive faculty, and gilding or staining all natural objects with the colours, borrowed from internal sentiment, raises, in a manner, a new creation.”

    ~ Stanford synopsis of David Hume's essay on aesthetics (abridged)
     
  5. twinjet

    twinjet Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Sep 23, 2008
    49
    I don't know, but someone was asking if they looked pretentious a while back. So, if you're trying to win points there...
     
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  6. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    Sometimes, basses aren't heavy enough. Singlecuts solve this problem by adding extra, unnecessary wood to the body of the bass.

    Some people say that there is additional structural support for the neck, which makes it more rigid, since more of the neck is supported by the body.

    I personally think it is just a double-breasted suit. It isn't common, but there was a point in time when it was somewhat fashionable.
     
  7. Biggbass

    Biggbass

    Dec 14, 2011
    Planet Earth
    They're certainly interesting looking but like pointy toed boots they're not for everyone.
     
  8. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music.

    May 3, 2009
    N.E Illinois
    What's the advantage of having a cutout on the E or B string side of a bass?
    Show me how you use the E string cutout on a doublecut.
     
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  9. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    Here are a couple shots of my singlecut. You can see 1) the enhanced neck joint, and 2) how Brubaker further solved the lightweight problem not only with the singlecut design but also by adding about a half inch of thickness to the body of the bass. Because of the extra mass due to the design, this bass is properly weighted and balanced.

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  10. el murdoque

    el murdoque

    Mar 10, 2013
    Germany
    When i first saw a pic of the Ibanez single cut BTB i knew i wanted one.
    When i walked into a music store a bit later to test two cabs, they had that bass hanging there.
    I tested the cabs a lot, but bought the bass instead.

    I never even once asked myself what benefits i get from that lump of wood between the top horn and the neck.
    I guess you either fall for them or you don't.
     
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  11. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    What's the advantage of making basses I don't like? If they are good enough for me they are good enough for everybody. I wish manufacturers and luthiers would stop. It annoys me and serves no purpose.
     
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  12. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music.

    May 3, 2009
    N.E Illinois
    That uncutout section is about a quarter pound of wood.
    Big addition of weight.
    And since it's behind the basses center of gravity...........
     
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  13. M.R. Ogle

    M.R. Ogle Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Mount Vernon, Illinois
    Backstage Guitar Lab owner
    I've seen this movie before.

    If singlecut basses had been the NORM for fifty years, then someone came out with a DOUBLE cutaway bass, everybody would have gone crazy over the look and "improved" fretboard accessability.
    It's different, so it MUST be better.
     
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  14. LT131

    LT131

    Jan 25, 2015
    Deep South
    I think it's a matter of balance and strength. In order to get the top strap button in the right place the top horn would have to be huge. I assume that the top bout also adds support for the neck. Form following function, I guess. I'm lost past the 9th fret anyway!
     
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  15. interp

    interp Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2005
    Garmisch, Germany
    As an owner of a single-cut I'm pretty sure it has little or nothing to do with looks.
     
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  16. It's become the mark of a prestige product, a way for builders to signify that they're serious about their craft. In some cases it's just an elegant aesthetic choice, but sometimes it actually is functional. For example, I've heard that Thumb SC's don't have the notorious Thumb neckdive because the single cut extends the strap button out further than the upper horn would normally be.
     
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  17. kkaarrll

    kkaarrll

    Jun 1, 2014
    they all look like weird telecasters to me




















    which I sorta want
     
  18. M.R. Ogle

    M.R. Ogle Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Mount Vernon, Illinois
    Backstage Guitar Lab owner
    Hmmm... they COULD have just extended the existing top horn a bit. Not buying this.
     
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  19. dabbler

    dabbler

    Aug 17, 2007
    Bowie, MD
    Thanks! Now I better understand why Brice made its single cut neck joint like this:

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  20. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    They are designed to be 50% less effective when used as a grappling hook.
     

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