What is the next step in learning walking bass?

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  1. Jay boogs

    Jay boogs Inactive

    Feb 21, 2017
    I am new to walking bass I recently played along to a jazzy track in dm however I would like to see what the next step is and I'd figure why not ask my fellow bassists.


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  2. mambo4

    mambo4

    Jun 9, 2006
    Dallas
    a couple well regarded resources around here:

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    Your recording says "Jazzy in Dm" ...implying you are thinking in scales
    walking bass has more to do with thinking in chords.
    It sounds like you are playing along with a I - vi - ii V.
    If you don't understand what "I - vi - ii - V" means, read the PDF linked in my signature.
     
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  3. Jay boogs

    Jay boogs Inactive

    Feb 21, 2017
    so what you are saying is that I should have used more chord tones while playing
     
  4. Page 5 of Ed Fuqua's book.

    Bd7 -----Eb7---------Bd7---------Eb7...........%
    1-2-3-5..8-b7-8-10..8-b7-6--b7..8-b7-6-b7|8-b7-6-b5

    So yep more chords tones. something on each beat. Friedland's book first, as it is good about getting you started, then once started Fuqua's book is a must have.

    I got the 1-2-3-5 stuff from Friedland. And that now is how I think. Fuqua's book is pure standard notation so I transpose his stuff into scale degrees, perhaps not the right thing to do, but, I understand it this way. .

    Good luck.
     
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  5. mambo4

    mambo4

    Jun 9, 2006
    Dallas
    Yes.

    you are essentially playing "root, root, root, <other tone>"

    that's less of a walk and more hopping in place for 3 beats and then stepping towards the next root

    the basic , super simplified, entry level formula for a 4 beat walking bass line measure is:

    1. root note
    2. passing tone leading to
    3. a chord tone
    4. passing tone leading to next root
    embedded in this formula is of course the assumption that you know your basic harmony and chord tones
     
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  6. Jay boogs

    Jay boogs Inactive

    Feb 21, 2017
    I know chords so after you saying this has given me some insight on what I should do
     
  7. mambo4

    mambo4

    Jun 9, 2006
    Dallas
    I once asked a skilled jazz player how to learn good walking bass lines
    he said, simply: "Transcribe Ray Brown"
     
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  8. StyleOverShow

    StyleOverShow Still Playing After All These Years

    May 3, 2008
    Eugene
    True that. worked up 10 Ray Brown lines once, began to notice his patterns, where bars 4 and 8 had variations (of course).
     
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  9. Nashrakh

    Nashrakh

    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    Since you say you know chords:
    1. Take a familiar melody. Or write one yourself.
    2. Reharmonize. Nothing too fancy if you don't want to go all out. Maybe start easy with basic harmonic functions: Tonic, Dominant, Subdominant (plus its parallel, the II chord), including their variants.
    3. Write a walking bass. Look for the suggestions of the fine posters before me for inspiration.

    Especially #2 will get you really familiar with the harmony from which you can construct your lines. Writing the harmony yourself also ensures you won't get lost as easily.
     
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