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what is the point of good gear?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by punchclock, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. kraigo


    Jun 21, 2007
    Minneapolis, MN
    It's all about your pleasure listening to it and playing it. Nothing more.

  2. hasbeen

    hasbeen Commercial User

    Sep 23, 2004
    Vice President, KMC Music. Warwick U.S. distribution, Ampeg distribution
    when my bass and rig feel and sound good, it inspires me and they almost "disappear", i.e. I'm not thinking about them.

    When they don't feel/sound good, they get "in my way".
  3. jmbjandfam

    jmbjandfam Supporting Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Foxfire Village N.C.

  4. Floridabwoy

    Floridabwoy Supporting Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    Jacksonville, Fl
    I agree 100% a great instrument is the key. I use the DI on my shuttle 6.0 (which sounds great IMO) or a Countryman DI that I keep in the bag.

    I have an old Peavey 410TX that is plenty loud. I want a new cab, but I don't need a new cab.
  5. tabdog


    Feb 9, 2011
    Let me ask you this.

    When you get old and you can't get gigs,
    are you going to give it up because you
    can't be a hot shot any more?

    Or do you like playing so much that you
    are going to keep playing and buying gear?

    I think your answers will show how much
    you care about playing bass. Also it will
    show if you may keep at it.

    If it means that little to you, let it go. I
    promise that 99.99 percent of the world
    could care less,

  6. sharpbass

    sharpbass Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2011
    Its all about what makes you happy. That's it.
  7. Mr. Foxen

    Mr. Foxen Commercial User

    Jul 24, 2009
    Bristol, UK
    Amp tinkerer at Ampstack
    Talk to the sound men more. bear in mind that 95% of musicians haven't the first clue about tone in the context of a band, so soundmen tend to appreciate having most of the control, or a familiar thing to work from like the BDDI. If you talk to them and they get the impression you aren't a typical wally better change of a micing.
  8. tabdog


    Feb 9, 2011
    Why buy new gear?

    No need. You can take a Squier Affinity
    and a Sans Amp and nobody can tell if
    you are playing a $100 or a $1,000 bass.

    You are absolutely right. Why?

    I would say, that is a question for you to
    answer for your self,

  9. Do a search on this one. There is a thread almost weekly about this.

    Very simple:

    a) Many, many, many players play gigs with no PA support. There are a zillion jazz gigs, small club gigs, freelance gigs, folk gigs, etc., etc. that are either in small rooms or that don't require massive volume/PA support

    b) Often, even with PA support, the bassist won't have his/her own monitor mix and/or the monitor system will not produce a pleasing sound for the bassist or the band, requiring backline as a high quality, bass specific stage monitor.

    Pretty simple!
  10. staccatogrowl

    staccatogrowl Savoring the spinning, shimmery aquasphere Supporting Member

    Jul 14, 2006
    My gear is for me. . . Practice, recording, rehearsals, stage monitoring. . .

    My gear is for my bandmates. . . They can feel the music, even though they might be hearing my bass through Avioms . . . Or, maybe they only hear my sound through Avioms because of silent stage requirements. In this case, my gear accommodates amp and speaker sims.

    My gear is for those in small rooms, where there is no PA support.

    I try to be flexible about sound and sound reinforcement issues. I try to have the right gear for the right job. It is a multidimensional formula. It changes according to gear availabilty, the circumstance, and the demands of the audience, sound folks, and venue.

    One size does not fit all.

    I will never impose this, because the variety is a positive factor.
  11. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    What is the point in getting good anything?

    A nice car? Nobody else gets to drive it.
    A nice house? Nobody else gets to live in it.
    A nice oven? Nobody else gets to cook on it.
    A nice TV? Nobody else gets to watch it.
    A nice bed? Nobody else gets to sleep on it.
  12. THORRR

    THORRR Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2010
    Parker, Colorado
    You have to do it for yourself and your own pleasure
    because most "soundmen" (and I use the term loosely)
    don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground when
    it comes to mixing bass. The same can be said for most
    self-proclaimed "recording engineers". You work your heart
    our trying to get that perfect sound and on the finished mix
    they turn you into "background boom" and nobody but you
    seems to care one way or another.

    My rig is sufficient to handle any venue, indoors or outdoors and
    I fight soundmen every step of the way. I don't want their DI box
    setup, I don't want to be mic-ed, and I don't need to play through
    their PA. Just leave me alone and I'll take care of the bass
    needs of the band.

    My 800 watts and 2 Avatar B410 Neos will fill any fairgrounds
    with deep full bass without them getting in the middle.

    Do it for yourself man! Play your sounds!

  13. tabdog


    Feb 9, 2011
    This thread really makes me wonder about myself.

    When I started, there was no internet and a cheap
    bass was the worst piece of **** you could imagine.

    I had one good bass and a decent backup. I had
    one nice bass amp and a decent backup.

    It stayed that way. I still have one of those amps
    and both basses.

    I never had gas until I got old and couldn't get many
    gigs any more.

    Now I buy low cost basses and sometimes six strings
    just to mod or play and mess around with.

    I won't stop until I can't pick up and play a bass.

    That's what it's going to take to stop me.

    So, like I said, it's a personal decision,

  14. Sliderbass

    Sliderbass Dr. Bass, The best cabinet you'll NEVER own! Supporting Member

    Let's set this straight. Nice gear is great BUT if you're a weekly gigging musician, RELIABLE gear is what you need! Regardless of who makes it, it's gotta work every time you hit that power button. Bases need to play well, stay in tune and not hum or buzz.
  15. nobodysfool


    Apr 22, 2010
    Shelby, OH
  16. JxBass

    JxBass Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    I've been in love with music gear since 1964. Why stop now? :)
  17. Flabass

    Flabass Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    St. Petersburg
    +1 Almost my exact story.
  18. My favorite and most expensive bass rig is a Bag End stack powered by a couple of Crown XTI amps and the pre amp d'jour, that I've mentioned on here before. Wanna know how many times that thing has hit the stage in the last eight years? Zero! I've got other cabs and racks that are much more portable and see the most use. But that's okay. I put that together for me. Sure I'd hope that I could use it live more than I do, it was basically a dream project and an exercise in excess. It's big, it's stupid and I need a box truck to haul it around, but it sounds sweet. At this point I guess it's my retirement rig. I'll just sit in front of it with a box of Depends, playing to my hearts content, stopping only to put on a fresh pair! :)
  19. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    First off, you can't really mic a 2 or 3 way cab live. If I think you aren't going to scoop your mids (or otherwise crappify your tone) and you are running one way cabs I will generally mic a cab. If you have a 2 or 3 way cab I might DI the output of your amp. Using only a DI before a tube amp is blasphemy :scowl: . I generally don't use an amp when I play out as I use in-ears - added benefit is I know what I'm sending to the board :D .

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