What kind of wood? NEW PICS

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by RyanOh, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Northern Ash

    7 vote(s)
    18.4%
  2. Swamp Ash

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  3. Mahogany

    4 vote(s)
    10.5%
  4. Basswood

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  5. Poplar

    7 vote(s)
    18.4%
  6. Other/Carrot guess

    7 vote(s)
    18.4%
  7. Alder

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  8. Balsa

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Cedar

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Purpleheart

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Oak

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Abstain from voting due to poor staining job

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  13. Quilted Northern

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  14. Firewood

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 10, 2016
    Rhode Island, USA
    This is a 1982-1983 Guild SB-202, originally candy apple red. Stripped and stained around 1994 revealing the wood grain.
    EDIT: This is the finest staining job in the history of luthiery, taking two solid weekend afternoons and almost a 12 pack of the cheapest beer money can buy...because the quart of stain was a lot. Hand rubbed I might add.

    I've seen several posts claiming their Guild SB-202 is mahogany. Older Guilds like a B-302 (made right before 1982) were mahogany, and the B-302A was ash. There was never an "A" wood designation for 202's. Guild was known for using both woods for basses in this time period. The 202's were only made for two years and then the Pilot basses were introduced. Painted Pilots were usually poplar starting in 1984.
    EDIT: Poplar was added to this story as a red herring, it's not poplar.

    I bought this bass new from a local RI dealer. When I asked the wood type, he said "probably ash" -- I think he may have said Northern ash, can't remember. This dealer used to drive to Westerly RI and pick up guitars at Guild -- he's been inside there many times and I never questioned it.
    EDIT: The same guitar shop owner routed out the pickup cavity for the P, that's when he said ash. I originally routed it out with a 1/4" paddle bit making a series of holes with a hand drill...which are still there...just a little cleaned up.

    I always assumed ash, so here it is. What is it? Ash Body? Maple Neck?
    20160712_180055.jpg 20160712_180128.jpg 20160712_180205.jpg 20160712_180225.jpg 20160712_180242.jpg 20170211_082935.jpg

    It's 10lbs, 8oz.
    EDIT: I might unstain it and start over. Or, buy the beat-up one in the TB classifieds make a twin.

    EDIT: I sanded the back and took more pictures. Hope I didn't hurt resale value. Seems like one piece?
    20190624_183415.jpg 20190624_183421.jpg 20190624_183426.jpg 20190624_183429.jpg 20190624_183457.jpg
     
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  2. Wisebass

    Wisebass

    Jan 12, 2017
    Lost in Space
    Hi RyanOh :)

    Actually it' s a SB 203 (3 pups!)

    Guild SB-203 Electric Guitar

    greetings

    may the bass be with you

    Wise(b)ass

    edit: body is ash, neck is maple
     
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  3. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 10, 2016
    Rhode Island, USA
    The P is an EMG I added, but do have SB-203 also!
     
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  4. Wisebass

    Wisebass

    Jan 12, 2017
    Lost in Space
    oops! :D you 're right (my mistzke!)

    Here you go!

    Guild SB-202 Electric Guitar

    same body, same neck!

    greetings

    wise
     
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  5. The combination of my bad eyesight and that brownish stain makes it a bit tough to be certain, but I'd go with ash.
     
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  6. TrustRod

    TrustRod Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2016
    Northern California
    I see either alder or maple for the body. And it looks like a shoe polish finish.

    Maple neck, the back of the headstock screams maple.
     
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  7. mbell75

    mbell75

    May 23, 2016
    I don't know and it wouldn't matter. The tone comes from all those knobs and switches of course. It needs a few more though.
     
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  8. To my eyes it's definitely not mahogany, basswood, or poplar--too heavy for the last two choices.
    If Guild was big on mahogany and ash at the time, it's got to be ash.
    Voted northern ash because why go far from home for your wood?

    Maple neck.
     
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  9. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    Looks mostly like maple, flat sawn, with a :poop: staining job done to it.
     
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  10. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 10, 2016
    Rhode Island, USA
    It was a huge pain to remove underlying layers to get to bare wood. By the time it was ready to stain, I wanted it done and over with. I just made sure the neck got the most attention and it's smooth.

    I didn't remove the pickups/wiring and got stain everywhere, but at a distance people think it's beautifully done.:laugh:

    Young people are always in such a hurry.
     
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  11. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    Reference for any staining jobs you may partake in in the future, use this before you stain the wood (depending on the type and condition of the wood):

    Minwax Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner - Prepare Wood for Staining | Minwax

    :cool:
     
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  12. BassFishingInAmerica

    BassFishingInAmerica

    Jul 24, 2014
    Why isn’t alder one of the choices?
     
  13. Eddie LeBlanc

    Eddie LeBlanc

    Oct 26, 2014
    Beaumont, Texas
    Don't create no problem, won't be no problem.
    No idea........

    Back.jpg
    But know mine is Quilted Maple.

    Inlays.jpg
     
  14. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 10, 2016
    Rhode Island, USA
    I've added several new poll answers for anyone wishing to participate.
     
  15. nilorius

    nilorius Inactive

    Oct 27, 2016
    Riga - Latvia
    I am not sure about Northern Ash, but it's absolutely not swamp ash.
     
  16. lizardking837

    lizardking837

    Jan 28, 2009
    Carrotwood
     
  17. I voted Poplar - here is a Poplar body I stained. Compare to the pics in the OP:
    StainedPoplar.jpg
     
  18. pappabass

    pappabass Inactive

    May 19, 2006
    Alabama !! Roll Tide
    Looks like a loose grain wood like poplar. Ash has a little tighter grain like oak.
     
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  19. BassFishingInAmerica

    BassFishingInAmerica

    Jul 24, 2014
    I think you’re swayed toward poplar because it’s the exact same color stain. But, the OPs bass has a much tighter grain.
     
  20. Sixgunn

    Sixgunn

    Jun 6, 2012
    Colorado Springs
    I don't wait 30 minutes after eating, to go swimming.
    It's balsa wood! ;)