Watt, You commented that on your tour with the Fog, J.Mascis asked you to play with a pick, which you hadn't done in something like 17 years. Would this would mean you played pick on the early Minutemen records (My First Bells era) ? Those records had some fine bass playing - very clear sounding and rhythmic in a way that you don't often hear from bass players that just use their hands (similar to Chris Squire who used a pick on those classic Yes records). Did this sound come from using a pick, and what made you completely stop using one? Are there any of those Minutmen songs you wouldn't be able to play without a pick? Do you view playing with a pick on bass as "cheating" or less expressive?