What Makes A

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by JAUQO III-X, Nov 1, 2011.


    JAUQO III-X Inactive

    Jan 4, 2002
    Endorsing artist:see profile.
    What makes a bass player innovative?
  2. pudgychef

    pudgychef In Memoriam

    Jan 22, 2005
    Chongqing, China
    fashioning a bass out of the carcass of a lamb he/she just slaughtered on stage and then rocking it while wearing the pelt....
  3. G00D+~VIBES


    Nov 21, 2008
    Kansas City
    When I think about the question for just a moment, 3 things come to mind.

    1. A 'stupid' idea.
    2. Fearless pursuit of that idea.
    3. The work ethic necessary to bring that idea into the interactive paradigm/reality.

    Either that or wang chung...
  4. Phalex

    Phalex Semper Gumby Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    G.R. MI
    Not being constrained by what the instrument can or can't do. Just because "they" say it can't be done is no reason not to do it.

    Of course YMMV IMHO etc.......
  5. The only difference between an innovator and a complete loon is the acceptance of the idea they are trying to give birth to.
  6. Marlat


    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
  7. good call.

    JAUQO III-X Inactive

    Jan 4, 2002
    Endorsing artist:see profile.

    Cut it out :)
  9. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    This question/answer reminded me of this interview to a truly innovative guy. Hear what he says from 0:50 to 1:44. Not necessarily the answer to Jauqo's question, but food for thought anyway.
  10. the thread/question instantly made me think of this link

    How to make a movement. Lessons learned from dancing guy. | Derek Sivers

    and in revisiting it, I think the first 2 points kinda fit...

    1.) doing something for it's own sake - not trying to start anything.


    2.) guts to look (sound) a little ridiculous, but not care.

    obviously, it needs to be in some way independent of things done before.
  11. Jazzdogg

    Jazzdogg Less barking, more wagging!

    Jul 29, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    "What makes a bass player innovative?"

    Doing the unexpected in a way that not only works, but elicits a double-take from other musicians, and makes them want to hear more. The best are cliche'-free.

    Some do this rhythmically, some harmonically, some through tone or timbre. Musical innovation transcends the visual.
  12. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 20, 2004
    Madison WI
    HPF Technology LLC
    What makes anybody innovative? "Chance favors the prepared mind." Some ideas:



    A comfortable environment, free from the distractions of subsistence and security

    Interaction with other creative people

    Ability to motivate others to embrace your new ideas
  13. Being a musician first ... and not thinking about the limitations of the instrument

    the bass is just part of the musicians "musical voice"...
  14. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
  15. VinKreepo


    Nov 13, 2009

    How many undiscoved bands have you heard and thought "Wow! They were way ahead of their time!"??? Quite a few probably.

    What about current bands that seem "old-fashioned" or "copy-cats"?

    The key is to make a unique sound that is relevant enough to today's music to be accepted, but different enough to leave your audience hungry.

    When you date women, you don't wear 70's disco outfits (at least I hope not >.>) or a robotic spacesuit... you wear a MODERN outfit that says, "This is me and I'm the best damn guy you're ever gonna get!"... that's what you do with music
  16. Desire is a sense of longing or object or hoping for an outcome. The same sense is expressed by emotions such as "craving" or "hankering". When a person desires something, their sense of longing is excited by the enjoyment, and they want to take actions to obtain their goal.
  17. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    The need to express themselves in ways that tradition techniques can't accommodate.
  18. geeza


    Mar 15, 2009
    Earth, but just barely.
    I'm not wearing pants
    I guess the simplistic answer is: "doing something with the bass that has never been done before."
  19. santucci218


    Jan 26, 2007
    That was a great post and link James. Thank you.
  20. John Wentzien

    John Wentzien

    Jun 25, 2007
    Elberta, AL
    Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system (original test-pilot)
    A man invents a thing which could revolutionize the arts, produce mountains of money, and bless the earth, and who will bother with it or show any interest in it?--and so you are just as poor as you were before. But you invent some worthless thing to amuse yourself with, and would throw it away if let alone, and all of a sudden the whole world makes a snatch for it and out crops a fortune.
    - The American Claimant-by Mark Twain
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