What power amp would you recommend?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ugly_bassplayer, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    I'm looking to get a power amp to power two eden 700 watt 8 ohm cabs. The Crown Xli 3500 and the QSC GX7 look very cool.

    Any input is very appreciated.

    Thank you.
     
  2. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    Have a look at the Carvin.com website. I've been using their power amps for years. Currently my main rig is powered by an HD2000 while my backup uses a DCM1000L.
     
  3. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    Thanks for the input ill check em out.
     
  4. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Hard to get a bad amp these days. Stick with the major brands. Look for a good warranty.

    If you want some versatility with what you drive it with, i.e. different pre-amps with different output levels, then check out a DSP model. Usually about $50 more but adds, eq, limiting control, gain matching from different pre-amps, ...
    They can really extends the versatility of a power amp over a long long time.
     
  5. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    Do you have a particular preamp in mind?
    Some poweramps won't like some preamps.
     
  6. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    At the moment its a vt bass.
     
  7. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    Then you will want a poweramp with high input sensitivity like a Peavey IPR/Crest Prolite. Both have a .775v input which will get the most out of that.

    A crown or QSC will require a much higher input than your VT bass can supply. Will not be able to reach full output.

    The Carvin HD series are 1.0v input IIRC which will be closer but still less than ideal.
     
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  8. Argassab

    Argassab

    Dec 16, 2014
    Cayman Islands
    If I may, I also have a vt bass deluxe and I emailed tech21; they said it can drive a qsc. What is your take on that? I also have thoughts on getting a poweramp.

    Thanks.
     
  9. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    Tech 21 is playing with words.
    Yes it can drive anything but to full output?
    Different QSCs have different sensitivity also. The GX mentioned above is 1.2v.

    I have a QSC CX which is 1.26v input and a VT bass DI couldn't drive it fully and remain clean. Matter of fact a GK 2001rbp had problems driving it, same with my Interstellar Overdrive.
    Having a more sensitive amp just opens up more options.
    For what it's worth I had an RBI and it had no problems. The VT pedal just didn't do it.
     
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  10. Right_Butterscotch64

    Right_Butterscotch64

    Oct 18, 2012
    He may have the rack mount VT pre
     
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  11. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    Also a good point. Their rackmount preamps have the oomph required.
     
  12. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    The crown has the .775 input option.
     
  13. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    Good call my man!
    I misread that as the XTI series which has a 1.4v input.
    There I go spouting off my mouth.

    Please put the XLI in with my recommendations.
     
  14. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    Xli plus vt bass imo could be freakin killer. I just dont know if it will do the job in the road. Gear takes a freakin beating on the road.
     
  15. ThisBass

    ThisBass

    Aug 29, 2012
    Germany
    Do you really mean 2.2 dB difference will provide an essential advantage?
     
  16. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    Still on the fence between the crown xli3500 and a used svt4 pro.
     
  17. mbelue

    mbelue

    Dec 11, 2010
    For some preamps, absolutely. Especially 9v powered pedals.
    Good vocal preamps powered by mains power probably wouldn't bat an eye even at a 2.2v sensitivity.
    The answer is: it depends.
    The best resource here is the search function. There are several long threads on the Sansamp pedals and their output. Same goes for lots of other preamps.
     
  18. ThisBass

    ThisBass

    Aug 29, 2012
    Germany
    0.775 Volt input senitivity versus 1.0 Volt input senitivity provides a theoretical benefit of +2.2dB.
    A(dB)=20*log(1.0V/0.775V) = +2.2dB

    Sometimes the output impedance of a pedal or pre knocks down the signal level at the input of an amplifier. Assumption: if output impedance and input impedance were just of the same value (i.e. 10k). In this case the loss of signal level were -6dB. That's a very lot of.
     
  19. Low Class

    Low Class

    Jul 4, 2005
    Gasaholic
    Neither! Crest ProLite 3.0
     
  20. ugly_bassplayer

    ugly_bassplayer

    Jan 21, 2009
    Québec
    How about vt bass plus xli 3500 vs svt cl......???