What Pre Amp/DI will get me closest to a Gallien Krueger tone.

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by danielfnj96, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. MXR M80

    8 vote(s)
  2. Tech 21 Sans Amp

    7 vote(s)
  3. Rusty Box DI

    2 vote(s)
  4. Darkglass B7K

    2 vote(s)
  5. Eden WTDI

    2 vote(s)
  6. Hartke Bass Attack DI

    2 vote(s)
  7. If you want to sound like your playing through a Gallien Krueger buy a Gallien Krueger.

    87 vote(s)
  8. A Carrot DI will do the trick.

    13 vote(s)
  9. Other (please specify)

    3 vote(s)
  1. danielfnj96


    Jan 29, 2012
    NJ, USA
    Well my board is going through another transformation and my DI is going under question for if i'm going to upgrade. I haven't had it for too long and its been getting the job done but is there a DI other than an MXR M80 that will get me closer to a Gallien Krueger tone? I have always loved the GK tone ever since i started playing but i have never owned one, i don't have a ton of money, and since getting my DI have been very fond of going direct. So if anyone knows what DI sounds like a Gallien Krueger the most i would be happy to hear your reply.
  2. I think the m80 gets really close to my 80's 800 rb tone, when I don't use the color switch. What gk tone are you trying for? The 400/800 rb's sound different the the newer gen stuff to me.
  3. danielfnj96


    Jan 29, 2012
    NJ, USA
    Like their combos from last year or their MB/RB heads, that GK tone with lots of high mids.
  4. So you would need a di with a low and hi mid knob. I really wish gk would make a di pedal.
  5. MasterMonkeyMan

    MasterMonkeyMan Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Zoom B3 has a GALLIEN KRUEGER 800RB amp/cab simulation. Plus a ton of other goodies.
    Not having heard a GALLIEN KRUEGER 800RB I cannot vouch for it's accuracy.
  6. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    I believe there is one in the works. What stage of "works", I have no idea, I've just seen some casual references to it from rag himself in other threads where people have been asking for it.

    In the meantime, an MB200 is pretty close. 2lbs and it will fit on your pedal board.
  7. ProgRocker


    Mar 25, 2011
    Line 6 Bass Pod?
  8. I've seen a video of a guy using one covering an Incubus song and it sounds a LOT like my 800RB.

    But I will say this - the Darkglass B7K uses very similar EQ points. If you want a bada** bass overdrive and very similar EQ points, I would go for that one. I'd take it over an M-80 any day of the week, and the M-80 is no slouch.

    That being said, I use a B3K in front of my 800RB and it works for both smooth, saturated tones and very aggressive ones.
  9. gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    Just get an RB head. You can find one of that line used for pretty inexpensive prices a lot of places. I would just buy a head. I run a B7K through my 1001RB and it kills. But, with the blend fully on, it takes on different tones than the head will put out IMO.
  10. Ibby


    Jun 24, 2013
    Zoom B3 bass and effects simulator can get you pretty close IMO
  11. Exactly!

    Considering the list of stuff in the OP's "current set-up" and the fact you can get a used GK 1001RB-II used for as little as $350....this thread is a real head scratcher

    Sell or trade some of your stuff and get a GK head that already has a built in d.i

    easy breezy lemon squeezy
  12. jaywa


    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Maybe the OP doesn't want to lug a head around.

    From how I read the post, I gather he is going direct via a pedalboard... no amp onstage. Having done the same thing myself for about the past year, there are definite benefits to that approach and I personally would be very hard-pressed for a reason to ever take a "stack" back out on the road with me. I take it he is making his inquiry for the express purpose of NOT bringing a head (and cabinet) into the equation.

    And, agreed with others: it baffles me that GK haven't gotten into the pre-amp/DI stomp box game yet.
    dwade likes this.
  13. I'm guessing you and the OP haven't had that much stage experience...one he is 17...and anyone that has played lots of gigs knows at anytime you can go to setup for a show in a small or med size club that has a shyte p.a and only one working floor monitor

    Hence if you don't want to " lug" a small head like a 1001....have fun at "that" gig

  14. jaywa


    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    32 years playing bass, the last 15 years gigging regularly and the last 8 years averaging 50-120 dates a year and the vast majority of them paid. Currently getting $150/night minimum and $300+ pretty regularly. Rock, pop, county, jazz, gospel. Played bars, festivals, restaurants, jazz clubs, weddings, corporate, outdoor stages, audiences froma a couple dozen up to 10K and several hundred to 1,000 pretty regularly. Been on stages with IEMs, wedges, no monitors at all.

    Back to the OP... if you're OK with adding an amp then I would go with a GK combo, not a head and cabinet. That way you're at least keeping your footprint relatively small.
  15. Hey cool...if that's the case than your comment "I personally would be very hard-pressed for a reason to ever take a "stack" back out on the road with me" means that in every gig you have you either have played there before or have done the phone calls ahead of time to know that your not going to need a head and a cab at your upcoming gig

    The OP is 17 and I would bet the places he is playing he will eventually be screwed in a semi crap club with a sub par sound guy and have to play a gig not hearing himself...even worse if his guitar player has lots of stage presence with his rig

  16. gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    I don't remember the OP saying anything about not wanting to "lug" an amp and or cab on stage........ Lets not start assuming things here.
  17. jaywa


    May 5, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    I mean yeah, there is probably a good chance if the OP starts gigging regularly and is not rolling with his own P.A. for support, he'll wind up on the short end of the monitor situation sometimes. In that case he may want to consider a GK combo vs. a stack so at least he's still keeping his footprint pretty small. Right now I have two setups... a pedalboard for DI with IEM situations (80% of my gigs), and a 150w combo that I take on gigs where I know there will be wedge monitors and I'll need some onstage presence. I have a 300-watt head and a 4x10 cabinet but that rig has literally not left my garage for the past 3 years. It simply has not been needed.

    I just get weary of people thinking they have to still bring a big bass stack to every gig when a lot of times it's just plain overkill and they're working a lot harder than they have to. But then I'm 47 and don't have the energy I used to either. :meh:
  18. DrewFolkadelics

    DrewFolkadelics Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2012
    I've read this too and I'm still waiting for one. For now I use the MB500 as my main amp and an old 400RB for gigs that I know won't be giving me any support through the PA/House. I had the MB200 and it was powerful enough, but the gain only stage controlling my DI signal and amp volume convinced me to upgrade. Loved the tiny MB200 footprint though.
  19. Ahh...definitely
    If you have your own P.A and IEM's.....HUGE difference when it comes to this particular thread
  20. danielfnj96


    Jan 29, 2012
    NJ, USA
    Ok since there's been so much discussion on what my setup is, weather an amp is a necessity, ect. i'll try to clarify some things. My first point will be that the only reason i listed all the really pricey DIs is because i wanted peoples opinions, not because i was considering buying one. Secondly i have 2 amps, a small 80 watt Ibanez combo along with a 250 watt Hartke head/Marshall cab half stack, and the only time i would go some where amp-less is when i know there's a good PA before hand that i can use. Also i found one of those Gallien Krueger pre-amps on guitar center used when i was looking to see what the price of a GK to replace my Hartke was and its called the GK 2001RBP Preamp, its a rack mount though so i'm not interested. Oh and if anyone was wondering i don't have much stage experience besides the Arts Festivals at my school because my town is very sports oriented i can't seem to find any other musicians (my school is in a different town, the musicians there are unreliable, and they live too far from me to commute) and thus haven't been able to get a band together.