What strings to use for tuning down step and a half?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Ronny49, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Ronny49

    Ronny49

    Aug 22, 2009
    Phoenix, AZ
    Hey people...
    I just joined an original band that wants me to tune down a whole step and a half.

    The most I have ever tuned down was a whole step. But even then my strings were too slinky.

    This band has a sound mixed with various hard rock bands and a touch of Alice In Chains.

    My favorite sound is of Mike Inez of Alice... and Dug Pinnick of King's X.

    What is the best string for this? I usually play 45-125 on a Musicman USA Sterling 5 string.
     
  2. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    try using a 50-110 set.
     
  3. Ronny49

    Ronny49

    Aug 22, 2009
    Phoenix, AZ
    I play a fiver!

    I do have a set of Dean Markley's Helix in 50 to 128.

    Haven't tried them yet as I have been using DR Black Beauties (which look KILLER on my red translucent and maple finish).

    I wonder if those DDT strings really work for this? Or what about those elixer strings? They have little to no slinkyness. I
    wonder how well they would do at a step and a half down?

    Attachment is a stock pic of my bass.
     

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  4. knuckle_head

    knuckle_head Commercial User

    Jul 30, 2002
    Seattle
    Owner; Knuckle Guitar Works & Circle K Strings
    I suggest .125 .095 .070 .055 .040 for C#

    If you use my strings .124 .094 .070 .053 .037
     
  5. naetog

    naetog Supporting Member

    May 26, 2006
    San Luis Obispo, CA
    Despite the above post beign from the owner of the company, his strings are no joke. Circle K's are amazing. Check their site out. I used them on my old bass tuned down a whole step, and woudl occasionally drop the "E" string down further.

    I haven't bought CK's in 2 string changes and I honestly feel bad. The balanced tension sets changed my life. They are, in my opinion, the best thing I've done for my bass.

    Disregard the "odd' gauges. They are different because they are better.

    Plus you get to support a small business in a world of corporate BS, all the while getting a better product! How great is that!

    IMHO, YMMV, etc. etc. etc.
     
  6. MDBass

    MDBass Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Dingwall-Fender-Bergantino-Dunlop-Tech 21-Darkglass-Nordstrand
    To be clear...your band needs you to have a low G#?

    You'll need a B string larger than .130 if that's the case; if your band is really looking for you to tune to C# standard, a lighter gauge set is what you're after.

    Either way, look into Circle K's; they are phenomenal strings with a ton of different gauge options, and if I wouldn't be surprised if knuckle head is actually Skip, the owner ;)
     
  7. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    whoops, sorry 'bout that.

    what he said. if you go the low-b route (getting below the guitars range and tuning G#-C#-F#-B-E)you would need a heavy guage set, like a 50-110 with at least a 135 low-b. if you tend to play more melodically you could go the high-c route (extend high range and tuning C#-F#-B-E-A, or C#-F#-B-E-Ab to match the guitar's tuning) you could use a heavy guage 4-string set with an added high string.
     
  8. SilGarzaJr

    SilGarzaJr SilGarzaJr

    Mar 28, 2012
    North Texas
    Agreed.


    You might also consider ernie ball cobalts. They seem to have higher tension than strings of similar gauge and sound great!

    Good luck!
     
  9. I'm very confused. You mean on your 5 string, you want the low B to go down to Ab?? Does anyone actually do that? Surely if you put super fat strings on, you're going to have to file the nut slots to seat a string that huge, and even then it will flap about and buzz like mad. Which of the bands you want to emulate actually have notes that low?
     
  10. knuckle_head

    knuckle_head Commercial User

    Jul 30, 2002
    Seattle
    Owner; Knuckle Guitar Works & Circle K Strings
    Lots of bands do this - on traditional scale lengths, on Dingwalls, on shorties . . . it is done alot.

    The strings don't have to flop. Ideally they will be tighter than a standard E string, but at minimum should be the same tension - and can be.
     
  11. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    i'll add, another option here would be to put on a hipshot d-tuner. then you'd kind of have the best of both worlds and would be able to drop the C# down to a C and B. and i will add that i was too hasty to suggest guages. if you say that a 45-105 set tuned down a step is too floppy then a 50-110 wouldn't be too much better, unless you get a set of really stiff hex-core strings. personally, i feel d'addario retains tension fairly well at lower tunings.
     
  12. knuckle_head

    knuckle_head Commercial User

    Jul 30, 2002
    Seattle
    Owner; Knuckle Guitar Works & Circle K Strings
    a .165(ish) would be a good G#
     
  13. Ronny49

    Ronny49

    Aug 22, 2009
    Phoenix, AZ
    Then how come you recommended a much lighter gauge originally?

    What changed?

    Also, I had been on your Circle K site several times and the reason I did not ever order, is because to me, your site is very confusing.

    How much for a five string set close to 45-130?
     
  14. Bob C

    Bob C

    Mar 26, 2000
    Duluth, MN
    I'm curious as well. I just visited the site for the first time. Everything was easy to understand until I got to choosing a set. It says "balanced 34" 4 string: .045, .031, .020, .014". Those are some pretty puny strings, no?
     
  15. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    "balanced" means it has blanaced tension across all the strings. the set is balanced according to the lowest string. so if you have a 105 guage E, the A,D & G will be in guages that match the tension of the E.
     
  16. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    the lighter guage set he suggested was for tuning the set up to C# standard (C#-F#-B-E-A)
     
  17. Bob C

    Bob C

    Mar 26, 2000
    Duluth, MN
    So what are you saying? That the E string in my reference is .045?
     
  18. Bob C

    Bob C

    Mar 26, 2000
    Duluth, MN
    That is clearly not what the OP intended or asked about.
     
  19. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    yes. his string sets are in an ascending order including guage and scale length. you just flip through a few pages until you get to a set you're comfortable with.


    *edit*
    page 11 is were the traditional guages start (ie 45-105)
     
  20. dedpool1052

    dedpool1052

    Jan 10, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    it was knuckle_head's suggestion, not mine. i was only clarifying.