I've noticed my two local music stores both have a tendency to outright lie about the market price, offer "their price" and then perhaps a "sale" price. For example currently at local store 1: "Schecter Stiletto Custom 4 Suggested Retail: $1049 CAD Our price: $850 CAD Sale Price: $750 CAD" Now the actual suggested retail of this bass is $699 USD, which amounts to $860 CAD. This kind of trend exist for every other bass I've checked for both stores. That's all fine and dandy, false advertising claims aside I can understand that this is simply how the stores operate and make people think they're getting much better deals than they actually are. My question is what exactly should one expect to pay? Is there a general rule of thumb: Haggle towards X% of suggested retail? (the real suggested retail that is). Or just suck it up and pay the "sale price" (which in all fairness does tend to be less than retail)?