What would you like to see in a Double Bass and amp stand.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [DB]' started by dirtjumper2001, Oct 9, 2001.

  1. Hi everyone. I'm doing a bit of research and i've been referred to the double bass end of the forum. I'm currently in the stages of designing a bass and amp stand for my GCSE project. I've asked people in the miscellaneous bass guitar forum, and have had suggested to me making it possible for double bass players to use it. By this I mean spaces for a double bass to be held and a space for a small amp. What do you think would be good for me to include it, you know, like little bits that would fulfill the needs of double bass players. So, if any of you have any ideas, please post them on here, they would be of great help to me. I will update you all with pictures of the different stages of making the stand in this forum from December when I'm making it. I'm currently designing it, so lots of ideas would be great. Thanks in advance.:)
  2. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    I have a very nice stand for my DB that has one flaw: if the peg on the bass is extended it won't fit.

    I'm trying to remember who made it. It was made in the UK, got it from Hammond Ashley (though they no longer carry it). Name starts with a B :)

    It's much more substantial than those flimsy Hamilton stands, has padded arms to hold the bass at the bottom and at the side cutouts. The bass leans back a bit in the stand and there is a hook to hang the bow from. It can be quickly folded up into a flat package for transport.
  3. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY

    The ultimate DB stand would be sturdy, portable, simple, and would fix the above problem, possibly by having an adjustable bottom section which allows the endpin to be extended when the bass is placed in the stand. The height required would vary by user, so the adjustment should have a lot of lattitude.

    I don't think an amp stand is needed for DB. If I did use an amp stand, I wouldn't want it to be a part of my bass stand.
  4. jazzbo

    jazzbo Guest

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Room for STICKERS!!!

    sorry......i'll be going now........
  5. Bob Gollihur

    Bob Gollihur GollihurMusic.com In Memoriam

    Mar 22, 2000
    Cape of New Jersey
    Big Cheese Emeritus: Gollihur Music (retired)
    I think hat's the MBS stand that I and some others sell. Made in the UK. I've measured and found that it can accommodate a six inch extension from the bottom edges of a bass; any longer than that and the pin must be retracted. One of the few times my medium height has been an advantage.


    As far as your project, I doubt that a stand could be easily designed to adapt to both electric and double basses given their range of sizes. And I agree with Chris; incorporating an URB stand and amp stand would not likely be an advantage. Depending on acoustics and volume requirements, it may require the amp to be located some distance from the bass for the best tone. Not to mention the wide range of amp configurations and sizes.
  6. mchildree

    mchildree Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2000
    I also have the Meisel stand that the other guys have mentioned here, and I too find that the biggest drawback is the endpin problem. In addition, I'd also like to see the neck-supporting extension be a bit sturdier. If I don't put my bass on the stand at exactly the right angle, the stand extension will try to twist to one side.

    I don't need no steenkin' amp stand, though!
  7. Bijoux


    Aug 13, 2001
    Check out the new Double bassist mag, I saw this new stand that suppoerts the bass as you stand up and play and can also be used as a average stand.
  8. gruffpuppy

    gruffpuppy Guest

    Aug 15, 2000
    In your basement.
    The stand Bob sells is great, I was going to order one from him but found one local. I have a pin that is more than 6 inches. What I did was strap the stand to 2 pieces of 4x4's. Works nice and is still very stable.
  9. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    I thought this might be a good idea. Each week I go along to may local Jazz club and the Double Bass players bring along small amps like the GK 150 and end up stacking their amp on beer crates to get it it up to where they can hear it. Consequently they lose some bottom end from the amp and sometimes those beer crates are needed for their intended purpose and there aren't enough to do the job!!

    Obviously they are looking for portability, but I would have thought if you could incorporate some sort of brace to hold an amp that could also be somewhere to lean the Bass when needed, it might be a useful item.

    Many times, I have seen the Bass players struggle when they want to make an announcement of a song title or some pertinent information. So they can't hold the bass and talk into the mic, but if they lay the bass down on its side then often there isn't enough room and they are in danger of someone - probably a horn player - standing on their bass, when they get out of the way of the mic.

    Maybe this will only be useful in UK clubs where we seem to have a prevalence of very small venues for Jazz - I like these places for their "intimacy", but many times I have feared for those fragile DBs!! :eek:
  10. Don Higdon

    Don Higdon In Memoriam

    Dec 11, 1999
    Princeton Junction, NJ
    What I want most to see in my bass stand is a Montagnana.
  11. My local luthier makes a nice wood stand that doubles as a stool. It also breaks down to fit in a travel bag. It would take a herd of cellos to push the bass off of this stand. I have owned those extend-a-tube stands and though they work fine for home, I would never trust them on a live stage. You can contact www.kcstrings.com for pics or info.
  12. dhosek


    May 25, 2000
    Oak Park, IL
    Oh that's brilliant. It looks like this guy comes up with a lot of clever stuff (like the sliding gate on the extension too).

    I'd been putting off getting a bass stand, but this really looks like it's the device for me.

  13. If you ever make it to KC, you MUST visit this shop and play a hand made bass.
  14. pkr2

    pkr2 Guest

    Apr 28, 2000
    coastal N.C.
    I've always wondered why someone doesn't make a stand that has retractable wheels (wheel) that you could use in place of a bass wheel.

    Kill two birds with one stone, as they say.

  15. I bought one of those bass stands from Hammond Ashleys as well. Its called a Bass Fiddle Caddy. I have a few problems with it. The biggest one, is the end pin thing. what a pain when youre stuffed back in the corner of a coffe shop. Another problem is that it folds up, but when it folds up, its still to big to fit in the bass case or put it anywhere convenient, it it folded up, and broke down, in to a really small unit, that would be great. Next problem with it that ive had is the detachable pieces. I leave the bow holder at home, considering i havent and dont have enough money for a bow, or had the need to use one, (except for obscure mingus and ellington charts). I lost the other part, which linked the two top arms together to hold the bass, but unlinked them so they could fold down, so now im using some copper wire. I dont think that the amp stand should be part of the bass stand, because if your using an amp stand, youre going to want your amp to be substantially higher than floor level, but not your bass. I normally just use a chair.
  16. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook Sheet Music Manager
    I've had the Bass Fiddle Caddy for over a year now I don't really have a problem with it even with the endpin extended to my playing height. You can place the bass in it an angle such that the stand is flush on the floor and the a part of the bottom of the bass is in contact with the lower parts.
  17. Ill have to try that, the only problem is, my bass is a 5/8 size, so i extend the endpin as far as it goes.:rolleyes:
  18. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas

    Not having seen you, I would still venture to say that even on a 5/8 your endpin is to high, unless you are 6'10". When I went to a Hal Robinson masterclass he told nearly every player (both sitting and standing) to lower their endpin to free up their sound.

  19. well, I went to a few master classes, and they all told me to raise my bass, same with my teacher, but my endpin wouldnt go up any firther, so i had to get a new one. Youre right, though, it probably is a little high. Ill find out in a few days what the verdict is, because I dont really seem to have any trouble, and its right at the heighth that was recommended. Im going to a clinic on wednesday, so ill find out. Thanks for keepin an eye out, im only a HS senior, and still have a lot of learnin to do.:)