Whats the diff? ibanez "meduim output" and "High output"

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by PollyBass, Sep 17, 2001.

  1. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    I was looking at the ibanez website today, and saw that the btb510 had "Meduim output" pickups. while the edb and edc had "High output" pickups. whats the diff? why wouldnt i want a high output pickup? and why does the btb have meduim output pickups?
  2. yeah, i want to know that to!
    allodoX ?
  3. CaracasBass


    Jun 16, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    That could be because BTB basses is a "traditional bass series", what they have in mind with BTB´s is to create basses with more traditional sound playing and feeling (like Fender I guess) to reach that part of the market...... So they put some medium-output pups on them.

    On the other hand, EDB basses where made with more agresive players in mind (rock, metal) who need more output levels...... hope this help:oops:
  4. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    So, your saying that high uotput pickups are louder? but what about the 18 volt circutry on the btb? does being high output make them louder? i dont understand.
  5. CaracasBass


    Jun 16, 2001
    Madrid, Spain
    Yes, a high output pup is louder than a medium-level and even more louder than a low-level pup.

    That a bass uses an 18 volt preamp doesn´t mean that its louder than a bass that uses an 9 volt preamp, it´s just diferent circuit voltage. I´m not really sure about this, and I don´t know a lot about electronics, but what I know is that 18 volt circuit allow quiter operation than a 9 volt circuit.

    Maybe other fellow TB friend could help us in this electronic-question
  6. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Yeah, they say it (18 volt) gives you more headroom. im guessubg for your treble bass and mid controls, and if thats true, wouldnt it be louder? or just more o an increse in those areas? im really confused. anyone?
  7. Captain Awesome

    Captain Awesome

    Apr 2, 2001
    I was wondering about that too. Anyone?
  8. Gallient Knight

    Gallient Knight Guest

    Jul 31, 2001
    Milford CT
    Headroom from what I know means that you have more "space" in the gain stage. Example. You have an amp rated for 1000 watts at 1& THD. usually means that if you try to push out the whole 1000 watts you and not going to like the sound because it will have distortion and not the good kind. But with that same amp if you are happy with only getting out 800 watts but little distortion you will have a cleaner signal with more ability to hit the louder notes with more push. Most sound engineers love to talk about headroom. In the power amp world you live by it. The signal cliping in an active pre amp is similar but sounds different. You can add a 2nd 9volt to many preamps to give you more headroom but normaly the same output. Anyone with EMG pickups and add another 9v and see if they can hear a difference. Shouldn't be louder just more presence and clean signal
  9. * ahem * sorry i'm so late with this reply :D

    the ibanez website is clueles.. they say the EDC has high-output pickups, and the BTB has medium-output pickups.. they're nuts..

    the EDC has about 1/6th the output of the BTB..
    in fact.. the EDC has real low output, but also real low tone ( which is very nice ).
  10. mrjim123

    mrjim123 Supporting Member

    May 17, 2008
    Bump. I'm just wondering if anyone can add more to this discussion. I am curious because my next bass will probably be either an Ibanez SR series or Ibanez SRX series bass. The SRX series has the high output pickups.

    I'd be willing to bet that the reason high output pickups were developed has more to do with marketing than technological improvement. The appeal is those who think that more is better, the "crank it up to 11, dude" mentality.

    High output pickups simply mean that the signal input into your amp is larger in amplitude, which means that you don't need as much gain in the preamp stage to get the same volume as if the input were coming from medium output pickups. I don't think there is any advantage to using high level pickups; otherwise more manufacturers would use them.

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, or if there is something that hasn't aready been discussed then that info would be helpful.
  11. Bassdumpster

    Bassdumpster Guest

    Sep 6, 2008
    Only the emg pick-ups. not the emg hx can take the 18 volt upgrade per emg when I called. I just added another 9 volt to my 98 sr1000 w/emgs and didn't realize a major difference (plus had to leave it hanging out the back as there is no room for a secong 9 volt with out major modification. Suprised there is no 18 volt battery just for these applications...