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Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by taylor16, Dec 22, 2016.
Any simple explanations?
A muff is a type of fuzz circuit. Fuzz is a more general type of distortion.
A Fuzz Face is a Fuzz. A Tone Bender MK II is a Fuzz. A Muff is a Fuzz. A Brassmaster is a Fuzz. A Fuzz Face is not a Muff.
fuzz is the extreme end of the dirt spectrum (overdrive, distortion then fuzz)
a muff is a type of fuzz.
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A fuzzy muff aint no laughing matter
What did you not get out of Shu's answer? It's spot on.
Can't believe I'm reading this title.....
You can have fuzz without a muff, but you can't have a muff without fuzz.
"Fuzz" is the deep end of the "dirt" spectrum. Overdrive < Distortion < FUZZ!
"Muff" has a few definitions. Specifically, it refers to the type of fuzz circuit first used in the Muff family of fuzz pedals made by Electro-Harmonix. More broadly, "Muff" also refers to the countless fuzz pedals which are built around copies or variations of the Muff circuit. Which is why you can often read statements here about some pedal or other being "a Muff clone" or "a Muff with a blend knob" or something like that.
In short: a Muff is a type of fuzz. But not all fuzzes are Muffs.
This thread title is like asking what's the difference between a bird and a chicken.
Chickens can't fly.
Can´t? So what are the chicken wings for?
You missed the point. Also, they can!
OP, it's the same as the Hot Tub/Jacuzzi analogy...all Jacuzzi are hot tubs, but not all hot tubs are Jacuzzi. Reason being, Jacuzzi is a brand of hot tub, people just associate the name with that product so much that they use it generically. Same as in the south people will say "I want a coke" and actually want "a soda". Asking someone for a "Kleenex" just means you want a tissue, regardless of the brand.
the "Muff" term comes from the Electro-Harmonix pedal, Big Muff. Since many people like the circuit, there are many "Muff Clones" out there, so people sometimes use it interchangeably with "Fuzz" since it's a very popular and sought-after sound. Hope this helps.
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A classic fuzz circuit like the Fuzzface will have more pronounced mids and the Muff type fuzz will have a distinct hole in the mids somewhere giving it more of a smiley face eq. Also, muff's are much higher gain.
To me, muffs have a very particular type/style of fuzz tone. It is a fuzz. But its a muff. That's pretty plain. I know. But if you were to sit down with a muff and say a b:assmaster, you will most def hear a difference.
It's just like any baseline fuzz variant, they all have their own timbres. A muff, b:assmaster, fuzz face, beebaa, wooly mammoth. It's just different types of fuzz. So unless you really want a technical answer, that is the best way I can describe it. The one thing I can say about muffs, bassists have always seemed to have gravitated towards them becasue a lot of them are great with keeping your low end in tact. Take the Green Russian for example. Its been a popular bass fuzz for decades. Very deep low end on that one.
That's the best I can think of explaining without getting technical. Which I wouldnt be that great at anyway haha Hope it helped!
Thanks for those who provided helpful responses. Didn't know how to describe the difference in tone between a Civil War vs Green Russian vs Sasori vs Supa Dirty Rooster. I've played them all and love them each uniquely but the terminology never made sense to me. I always assumed a muff was a more clipped/compressed version of a fuzz tone. But I thought I'd just ask.