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Whats this bass worth?? 64 Jazz

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by MikeBass, Nov 29, 2005.


  1. MikeBass

    MikeBass Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Ferndale MI.
    Artist: Xotic Basses/AccuGroove
    64 Jazz
    Refin surf green with matching headstock- correct logo on headstock.
    Refret by Mike Lull.
    Replacment pickguard and neck plate.
    Everything else original-pots, covers, pick-ups. Not sure if it has the original case though.
    Thoughts??
     
  2. Pennydreadful

    Pennydreadful Goin out West

    Jun 13, 2005
    Arlington, Texas
    Fifty bucks. Tell ya what, I'll give you sixty.

    Honestly, I have no idea, other than that it probably falls under the category of 'a lot'.
     
  3. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI

    If it was original custom color 64, somewhere around 7-8k
    Because of the refin and changed parts, probably 50% or that or less

    Rob
     
  4. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member


    Any blocks or binding? Sounds like a cool bass.
     
  5. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI

    64's where dot necks without binding. Blocks didnt start until '66

    Rob
     
  6. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member


    Cool thanks Rob :) But pearliod blocks, binding and a pickguard would be massively hot on that color combo :cool: .
     
  7. Since it is a re-fin, the original finish, be it rare custom color or standard sunburst, doesn't really matter. Figure one half the value of a comparable burst. Factor in a couple of replaced parts, a re-fret, and questionable case and you will probably be looking at $2,500 tops. The guys who will pay for the vintage instruments are very discriminating when you start pricing them. The top shelf items are all original in excellent condition, and the glitzy prices fall away pretty drastically when you start deviating from that. If it sounds good and plays good, it will always have a great deal of value because it is a pre-CBS instrument, but the collectors who drive those prices crazy won't be interested.

    Browse through a copy of Vintage Guitar Magazine, with the understanding that a small majority of the prices you see in there are inflated as a sales technique, and the instruments typically sell for about 5- to 15% less than the asking price.
     
  8. Figjam

    Figjam

    Aug 5, 2003
    Boston, MA
    surf green, sexy.
     
  9. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    Mike an original that is really cherry will go for from 8-12K. A rough one will go from 4-6K. I figure a refinn will be half of that, depends a lot on the quality of the refinish. Figure a "closet classic" has a street price of 2200 -2500, I figure if you can get the real thing for 2500 to 3000 thats a great deal.
     
  10. MikeBass

    MikeBass Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Ferndale MI.
    Artist: Xotic Basses/AccuGroove
    Here's a full shot of it.
    It will either have the same pickguard or a mintygreen white one.
    [​IMG]
     
  11. Figjam

    Figjam

    Aug 5, 2003
    Boston, MA
    i vote minty green-white pg!
     
  12. maurilio

    maurilio Musician - Owner at Mo's Shop - Tech at Nordstrand Supporting Member

    May 25, 2003
    Studio City+Redlands, CA
    Endorsing artist: Nordstrand - Genzler Amplification - Sadowsky - Dunlops Strings - DR Strings
    Hi,
    :eek: beautiful!

    mint p/g

    Mo'
     
  13. MikeBass

    MikeBass Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Ferndale MI.
    Artist: Xotic Basses/AccuGroove
    A little update.
    The body finish is unknown as to if it's nitro or poly. Also all th cavities have been sprayed as well, so dating the body accurately is shot. But according to the owner, Mike Lull can confirm it's vintage somehow. :meh:
    The dots on the neck have been replaced with MOP dots from clay (fixable maybe).
    The pick-ups don't seem to have any markings on them, so I'll have to take his word that they are original (they rate @ 8.5K if I recall).

    The reason for all these questions is it was offered up as a trade for my F Bass BNF5 (currently posted here @ TB if you want to see a pix).

    Burk has a good point, a Closet Classic Relic will hit you for at least $2200 (new) and as long as the neck. body and electronics check out, this could be a "real" closet classic.

    Opinions on this?!?!?! Worth it to do?!?!??
     
  14. Wilbyman

    Wilbyman

    Sep 10, 2003
    Parkersburg, WV
    I think it looks pretty sweet! Surf green/tort makes me smile. But I'd agree that buying stuff like this is a dicey venture. I'd hate to see you get a bum truss rod or something.
     
  15. I wouldn't do it. I can understand if you get an older Fender in 'original' condition. However, once a refret, refinish, etc. has been done, it's just another bass to me... might be a good one, might be a mediocre one.

    For the same money... you could get a nice shiny new Metro with a preamp, better bridge, etc. :D Obviously, just my opinion... I'm one of those guys that think basses have gotten A LOT better over the years.
     
  16. Brian Barrett

    Brian Barrett

    Nov 25, 2001
    Murfreesboro, TN (Nashville)
    Dealer LowEndBassShop.com, Builder LowEndBasses.com
    Mike

    I was wondering what kind deal you were going to get on it and if it was a slamming deal, but then you stated that the dots had been changed out..... that killed it for me. Its one thing to refinish the body which many have done and while it kills the Vintage Value they still retain a nice margin and that finish looks nice in the picture. Once they cut out the dots on the neck...... ruined the neck for me and if you replace them its still replaced clay dots. The Necks are where the Value is most the time and this one has been messed with as well.

    Nice looking bass, but I'd pass or get some extra $$ with it for the Fbass. He's had to much done to it.
     
  17. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    These other issues, the overspraying, neck dots, PU Markings, and neck dots are concerns. Unless I played it and it absolutely kills, I would be hesitant. If the refinn is not nitro, you don't even have a Closet classic. I would put the actual value at closer to 1500 knowing what I know now. A poly finnish will probably effect the resonance of the body which may not matter anyway. The fact you can't date ANYTHING is a red flag. Have you talked to Mike Lull? Can you date the neck? Right now it's just a used Fender parts bass.
     
  18. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    In the future, as less and less of these become available, "refinish" will not be the bad word it is today.
     
  19. Brian Barrett

    Brian Barrett

    Nov 25, 2001
    Murfreesboro, TN (Nashville)
    Dealer LowEndBassShop.com, Builder LowEndBasses.com

    Refinish isn't a bad word, but it does devalue the instrument and always will from Original Value. Refinish on the body isn't what bother's me as much as the dots being changed out........ refinishing over the neck pocket hurts to since you can't see the original color, stamps, etc. This also helps quite a bit if people leave the neck pocket and just refinish the body.