i see as usual with mesa boogie, they are not discounted at the retail level, but if you buy one of these big blocks used you can grab em for 7-800 $ usd. whats up wit dat? are they junk? ive got a 400+ and 2 boogie buster combos and theyre fine, i like them. ive also got a slew of diesel cabs. i relizze the tone thing is subjective, but 800$ worth in 6 mos or less??? you folk got any input on these??