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When to move the thumb to the side of the neck? (Pre thumb position)

Discussion in 'Jazz Technique [DB]' started by Libersolis, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Libersolis


    Sep 9, 2004
    Austin, TX
    I have only ever studied Simandl and after 4th position he indicates the thumb should move from the back of the bass to the side, but there are often cases in the music where it seems more advantageous to pull it to the side earlier or later.

    I have attempted pivoting as suggesting by advocates of the Rabbath method and can certainly see the advantage of this playing in these positions, however without a proper teacher I am concerned that this will not benefit my playing.

    To that point, I tend to experience discomfort when ascending this way and what should be a comfortable part of the bass becomes uncomfortable.

    I would like to get your thoughts on approaching this area of the bass. Shifting, Pivoting and a few exercises to maximize relaxation and agility in this area. Thank you for your help.
  2. Hello Libersolis. I'm sorry to see no replies to your post. I seem to be in a similar place to you, as I'm working through Simandl, and have reached the thumb at the side point. I want to incorporate this into the transition to thumb position, ascending and descending. I have tried this just playing scales pizz, and I'm trying to let my thumb learn reference points on the heel (bottom?) of the neck. Ascending isn't a problem but the reference points are really useful when descending. the shift of the thumb like a thumb pivot, which allows my hand to move back to where it should be. I'm trying to incorporate a bit more thumb shifting overall, as it doing so makes you keep a better left hand shape. The thumb isn't bearing up too well, I've got a nasty split at the top from too much practice.

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