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Where should I start with my new rig?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by soundoholic, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. I'm currently running a line 6 pod into a qsc plx 3402 into an acme b4. I'm also playing a warwick fna 5 string jazzman which I love.

    I really am not that happy with my setup or my sound.

    Here is what I like and don't like about the...

    - I hardly use effects. I really only use an overdrive, hotter channel for solo, and the volume pedal for swells. Later I would like to use some more effects for delay work but I didn't like the delays on the pod.
    - No master eq
    - very very very complicated. I like simplicity. I usually run everything flat on a pre so I'm not sure why I bought the pod.
    - I think the pod produces many many pretty good tones. But not one really good tone.
    - I love the floor pedal though. Great Idea with the cat5.

    Acme B4:
    - Innefficient.
    - heavy for the volume of sound it makes.
    - I love the low end.
    - I don't think I need such a flat frequency cabinet. It can get muddy very easily.

    I'm currently buying up some pedals like a volume boost, volume pedal, and a couple overdrives. So I won't have to worry about effects when I get out of the pod setup. But what pre and cabinet would you suggest for me?

    I like my sound to have a low end growl and I like to people to hear every note I play. So I think I like a hi fi rock tone if that is the way to describe my tone. I play in a rock band that can goes from U2 to Rage Against the Machine. I've always liked the tone that flea, stephan lessard(though too compressed), and the bassist(s?) for Jane's Addiction and Porno for Pyros. I also really like the overdrive that Tim Commerford uses but that's more of an effects issue.

    I need to have a good DI and I never like to touch anything on my preamp durring a show. I like to leave it alone and let my pedals do the little work that needs to be done.

    So here are some of my ideas for a pre and cab. Let me know what you think.

    Preamp: Gallien Krueger 2001rbp: I always liked the gk tone of clean but with a bite to it. I think it would be cool to have 2 channels that I could switch with my feet. One clena and one overdrive. I was also thinking of the demeter 201s from what I read here.

    Cabinet: A couple of Schroeder 1210's but just one for now. My band has a relativly small backline. We all use in ears. I think it would be nice to be able to have a small rig that could potentially become a big rig easily by just adding another cabinet.

    So that's my delima. Let me know what you think and I'm sorry for writing so much. I'd also like suggestion on what you think I should buy first the pre or the cab? I think I could try out a schroeder and a demeter together in Denver but not many stores carry a gk preamp.

  2. pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    If you want simple ... go simple and get a head instead of a rack setup. And if you like GK, by all means go for a GK head! They make some great ones.

    Then once you've got a head you like, take it to the shops and demo a few of the more "normal" less "flat" more efficient bass cabs that are availible. You don't have to go super high end. Eden, Aguilar, SWR, Ampeg, and others all make cabs that you might really like, that will sit well in the mix. If you're not digging the HiFi acme, why go with another HiFi cab to replace it!?

    Please don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like you may be a bit wrapped up in internet forum high-end hype (it happens to all of us). I think that most of the "pro grade" but not "botique" gear is very well suited to what we actually do out there, and that if you go off into the high end world, you're going to actually have to work harder to get a setup together that really works by carefully choosing and matching each component. Thats fine if you want to do that, but if you just want to make music, head/cab/cord from a proven vendor is a nice way to go.
  3. That really isn't a bad idea. I'd like a gallien krueger rig but they are a little big and very heavy. I think if I had a 1001rb-11 and a neo 2x12 that would be perfect but I can't find a music store that carries any of the neo speakers. I'd much rather try before I buy.

    Thanks for the advice.

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