Where to put all these stomp switches... DIY content

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by eddododo, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    I have been working for awhile now on a sort-of effects looping deluxe utility pedal- the problem is that my design calls for a lot of stomp switches, or at least if I can eat my cake too it would..
    besides a few things that are easily toggle-able, the functions that compete for stomp switches are:

    loop 1 engage/bypass
    loop 2 engage/bypass
    dry signal engage/bypass
    order switch (loop 1->2 or loop 2->1)
    a bypass-all sounds nice, but it can be done without

    Now 5 stomps? pretty ridiculous.. by comparison the T.C. flashback x 4 is HUGE and the source audio stuff, besides being rather large, is I find a little tough to do quickly.

    Huge size is a no go for most people, especially for something utilitarian like a looper..

    Here are my immediate ideas:
    a- empress-sized pedal, 3 switches, with the middle set more forward; I just deal with only three stomp switches...
    b- A small moog-ish enclosure; plenty of room for jacks, and I could have 2 switches at the top two corners as well (I have found some relatively small slant front enclosures, with a steep face and a decently small lip on top)
    c Build them conventionally with 2 switches, with who I am building deciding what they want 'on tap' I am only building them for some friends, so I wont have a crazy demand to satiate the variety of options.

    Perhaps this post needs some diagrams...
    In the meantime, I appreciate any ideas
  2. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    Seems like the more common solution is a long and thin pedal, placed along the front of the pedal board.
    Something like this http://www.roadrageprogear.com/compact_true_bypass.html
    With many loops I wonder if the size won't be dictated by the jacks rather than the switches?

    EDIT: Look at the Schism pedal, that one's probably maxing out what you can fit in an Empress sized box.
  3. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    I flirtee w the roadrage shape a little, not sure why i didn't mention it.. Ill check out the schism
  4. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    I must have been too tired to think about too much when I was posting last night; one idea I really liked was to have an external footswitch , either a single multiswitch or individual switches that bus in via cable. When a cable goes into the switching jack/ jacks, 'switching' jacks would divert switching from an on_pedal toggle to the external stomp.

    This sounds a little like jackassery, but there are reasons...
  5. JehuJava

    JehuJava Bass Frequency Technician

    Oct 15, 2002
    Yorktown, VA
    I'm interested where this goes...

    Have you seem the wounded paw blender v4? Aye ye ye ye!
  6. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    A bit too OT now, but if it can be that big I'd rather have the Decibel11 Pedal Palette.
    Endless configuration possibilities with that one. And more money. :)
  7. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010
    Ok i have a second now..

    One of my biggest reasons for a smaller pedal and/or 'bus-in' switching is the extra functions in mind.. Having two huge effects chains in parallel is cool, but a smallish form switcher (ehx freeze pre/post chain anyone?), an instrument selector, an mp3 or dual guitar/ one amp practice tool, a mute box, or even a clean boost/buffer all in an empress? Shoot...

    3 switches like the badger and additional externals for stompable bells and whistles sounds like a solid compromise..?
  8. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

    Apr 7, 2010

    Ha dont make me feel bad!

    But really, i have tried not to look back at the wounded paw, and try not to find new ones, because im trying my best to reinvent the wheel without too many hints. Speaking of, i ran across the FEA looper.. It was a mixed feeling; great because i had alot of the same ideas and some new ones, but it hurt because i know i'd NEVER do it as well as frank.. Jeezums his stuff is so classy, rugged, and performance-perfect
  9. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    I guess the point of a DIY project is to make it for less money (which I have found is not always easy) but more importantly to build exactly what you want. There seems always to be some function or detail that you just wish manufacturers had done differently to fit your own use exactly. And, it's fun to create something from your own idea.