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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jock, Jan 22, 2004.
Efficiency and powerratings aside. Which 210 can play the biggest stage in real life?
Well if Accugroove's claims are in fact true I would guess their new tri 210 would perform quite well.
I would have to say that this is a good bet, and well worth checking out.
However, if you have the watts to really push it, the cab that I have found can play the loudest - and which keeps sounding better and better the louder you go - is the VL-210B. No, it is not the most efficient speaker out there, and truth be told, there are better sounding cabs at lower volumes, but when I crank 3,000 watts from my PLX 3002 into two VL-210B's, the result is darn right impressive. I have not been able to crank these cabs to the point where their tone even begins to break up. It's just too darn loud to stand by any stretch of means at that point. Truly, an amazing "2x10" in my book.
Now, I did recently pick up a Whappo, Jr., and I am hoping to try it with my PLX 3002 this Saturday, so we'll see how it holds up!
How big shows/gigs have you played with the VL-210? What kind of music etc?
Tombowlus, there IS a 12-step program for cabaholics!
Seriously, I agree that the VL210B is in the running for "biggest 210". I use one for rehearsal, and it competes well with a heavy handed drummer and a guitarist with four 12s.
The volume of a loudspeaker is based on the efficiency and power rating.
That IS real life.
My EA CXL210 is pretty damn loud.
Frequency response: 42 Hz - 14 kHz (±3 dB)
Sensitivity: 102 dB
SPL: 130 dB @ 1m
My Eden 210XLT is a great cab but it doesn't cut it as a standalone in a loudish band. I've come to the conclusion that I prefer 2x10 as extension cabs only, even it's with another 2x10, or better still a 15.
If you're not playing at earbleeding levels, then disregard what I've just said.
With speaker designs you get to choose between these factors:
1. Size...bigger box means more efficiency, more low end.
2. Frequency response...the more low end extension, the lower the efficiency
3. Voicing: emphasizing the midrange means more apparent volume compared to a flatter voicing; scooping out the midrange reduces apparent volume.
So the loudest 2-10 would be one that has limited low end, emphasized midrange and is in a relatively large enclosure. Since I haven't heard every 2-10 out there I can't give you an answer of a specific cab.
I have never used just one VL-210. I have either combined it with several other cabs, or with just a second VL-210. The largest venue that I have used just two VL-210's in is a medium-sized club, that holds about 300 people (more, if they aren't enforcing the Fire Marshall Codes that night).
As for style of music, the bands in which I have used the VL-210 play a variety of rock-n-roll, from Stray Cats (with upright, of course) to Zepplin, to Audioslave, to Cake, and a whole bunch in between.
Anyone know where those Cabaholics Anonymous meetings take place? I do need help...
I haven't compared it to other 210s, but my Bergantino HT-210 sure puts out an amazing amount of sound. I've used it as a standalone at many mediume-sized bar/lounge gigs (both with and without PA support) and have had no problem being heard. Like the other contenders, it needs a pretty substantial amount of wattage to get it pumpin'.
now that i have it eq'd right (thanks max) my epifani is tres loud. cant imagaine a louder 2x10. enetually i will probaby add a 1x12 or a 15 but it does fine on its own.
i've got an avatar 2x10 and it held its own in my bands last gig.i had a head that matched up with the power perfectly and i was up against a marshall stack and a 400w kustom 4x12.they were teasing cause all i brought was the 2x10 but when we started playing they had theirs turned ALL the way up and my lil ol' 2x10 was only about 2/3's of the way up