Well, After long looks into the newbie links and long searches on the forum and the internet i thought i was going to get a new standard as my first bass(i want a good starter). But when i saw that the la scala model with the carved spruce top is over $1000 more than the all plywood i dont think that i should start out with it. Then i found some information on The shens w/ carved spruce tops and plywood backs and ribs. They seem pretty apealing. So considering i want to both play pizz and a lot of arco which bass would be better suited for me the SB150 or the SB180.