Who else love and uses the Joyo Orange Juice and/or Oxford Sound or Tech 21 Oxford?

[Ritter667]

I am curious as to who else use the Joyo Orange Juice and/or Joyo Oxford Sound, or the Tech 21 Oxford, as an active part of their setup, and how they use them?

Both the Joyo Orange Juice and the Joyo Oxford Sound being based on the Tech 21 Oxford pedal, from the Character series, meant to emulate an Orange amp.
The Orange Juice being a simplified mini version, that really only works as a drive pedal, and the Oxford Sound being a full featured clone of the original Oxford "amp in a box" preamp/drive, unlike the Orange Juice also including a build in analog cab sim filter.

Personally I got 2 Orange Juice pedals in my setup, both dialed in with the same settings, which is a medium gain overdrive, with the gain set at 3 o'clock, the Tone at 10 o'clock, and the Voice (pre gain stage boost/cut EQ control, exactly like the Character control on the original Tech 21 Oxford) set at 2 o'clock.

One Orange Juice (only engaged when I don't utilize the other Orange Juice overdrive) being placed in the "clean" effects loop of a Boss LS-2, used for my pre reverb high gain setup, blended in parallel with Turbo RAT type distortion, on a high gain setting, or said RAT distortion stacked into a Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz, for my high gain fuzz tone.

The other Orange Juice overdrive being post reverb, sometimes with my high gain post distortion, a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone stacked into it, and engaged by it self pretty much as often as my basic "clean" tone.

The Oxford Sound, placed after my pre reverb drives, just before my reverb, in one effects loop of another Boss LS-2, blended with about equal amounts of "clean" signal, kind of functioning as a faux bi-amping setup, though my entire setup eventually all goes through a preamp with a bass amp emulation, and an IR based bass cab sim, and then a tube preamp ("amp-less" setup).
Settings for my Oxford Sound is as follows: Low 2 o'clock, Mid noon, High 10 o'clock, Voice 1 o'clock, Drive 1 o'clock, resulting a medium gain overdrive, though due to the fact that it is blended with about equal amounts of "clean" signal it sums up to lowish gain overdrive tone.

I found that the Oxford Sound seems to be brighter sounding, and suck more low end, than the Orange Juice (and actually also the American Sound, which I also own), perhaps because of the build in cab sim filter of the Oxford, but does sound pretty amazing and works perfectly the way I use it.

I love the character of the drive of these pedals for bass, which makes for a beautiful well defined low gain overdrive, but at higher gain settings, and with the Voice control boosted some, can get very grindy, and while, at least as far as goes for the Orange Juice, doesn't suck much low end either.

Maybe I should add that this setup is used with a bass in tenor bass, A#1 standard, tuning, but I actually think the Orange Juice sounds great for the lower regular bass, E1 standard, tuning as well.

 

[FaithNoMan]

I use a Darkglass VMT and a Reiner Gasoline stacked together, but I also love the Tech21 Oxford tones I got(esp with the speakersim circuit severed when the button is off - you have to go into the pedal and physically do this)

It's a shame it loses low end, and it's even more a shame Tech21 has always favored SVT flavorings over the awesome Orange overdrive. I have always wanted them to make a bass pedal based on that overdrive, and even maybe one like the new one but with the Orange flavor.

It was also the first time I got that grunt that sounded like Billy Gould on bass. And I had been through the Leeds pedal, the VT bass, BDDI, and a host of other pedals by them. None came as close to that "grunt" like the Oxford.

 

[Pulverizor]

Juice user reporting in.
Use it for a punchy driven rock sound. Fantastic little pedal, hate turning it off. Should get another to run as a cleaner sound.

 

[crapusername]

I have several ojs and the Oxford sound.

I use an oj as a shaper / mild drive on boards for my ozzy tribute, general dep board and my recording rig.

I find if the drive is too high, the low end drops, so it is used more as a shaper.

I used to have the t21 offering but sold it and regretted ever since lol, so when the Oxford sound was announced I was particularly happy to acquire one.
However, as noted earlier, the low end is not as good on the OS. It gets more use with me for guitar now.

I kind of wish @tech21nyc would reissue both the Oxford and Leeds as standalones. There are not many hitting the secondhand market and people jonesing for them.

 

[warrplayer]

Tech21 Oxford user. ( Joyo Oxford Sound as a backup.) I switch between the Oxford and a Joyo American Sound as my main amp sounds. But the Oxford is my absolute favorite amp in a box sound. The Joyo Oxford sounds a bit plasticky to me but will do in a pinch.

 

[sunbeast]

I have a T21 Oxford and it’s one of my favorite drive pedals for bass, though as a standalone I find it does tend to lose too much low-end for my tastes these days. I do find it works fantastically put in the high-pass side of a crossover FX looper where I can blend in clean or dirty parallel compressed lows underneath it (the Fairfield Accountant is my comp of choice for this). If I had the pedalboard space for it I’d probably use that setup on my main board much of the time. I wish Tech 21 would release a more bass-friendly update on the Oxford, I could see it working well as the drive side in something like the Geddy pedal with a low-passed clean blend. I much prefer the drive character of the Oxford to any of the other Tech 21 drives I’ve tried

 

[FaithNoMan]

I have a T21 Oxford and it’s one of my favorite drive pedals for bass, though as a standalone I find it does tend to lose too much low-end for my tastes these days. I do find it works fantastically put in the high-pass side of a crossover FX looper where I can blend in clean or dirty parallel compressed lows underneath it (the Fairfield Accountant is my comp of choice for this). If I had the pedalboard space for it I’d probably use that setup on my main board much of the time. I wish Tech 21 would release a more bass-friendly update on the Oxford, I could see it working well as the drive side in something like the Geddy pedal with a low-passed clean blend. I much prefer the drive character of the Oxford to any of the other Tech 21 drives I’ve tried

Would be an insta-buy from me as well.

 

[Ritter667]

I have several ojs and the Oxford sound.

I use an oj as a shaper / mild drive on boards for my ozzy tribute, general dep board and my recording rig.

I find if the drive is too high, the low end drops, so it is used more as a shaper.

I used to have the t21 offering but sold it and regretted ever since lol, so when the Oxford sound was announced I was particularly happy to acquire one.
However, as noted earlier, the low end is not as good on the OS. It gets more use with me for guitar now.

I kind of wish @tech21nyc would reissue both the Oxford and Leeds as standalones. There are not many hitting the secondhand market and people jonesing for them.

While I only use 2 of them in my current setup I do actually own no less than 3 Orange Juice pedals.
And then, as said, a Joyo Oxford Sound.

I really do feel that the Orange Juice works better as an overdrive pedal than the Oxford Sound, despite the Oxford Sound's extended EQ controls, but perhaps that is just because the Oxford Sound robs more low end,
The specific application I use the Oxford Sound in now though, kind of like a faux bi-amping setup it does work perfectly though, and better than the Orange Juice (yes, I have tried, but here the low end loss actually works in the Oxford Sound's favor).
But, as said, as a stand alone overdrive pedal the Orange Juice works better, turn down the tone knob on the Orange Juice to about 10 o'clock or so on the Orange Juice and the low end loss is actually pretty minimal (at least this works with the Voice knob boosted accordingly and relatively high drive settings, might end up sounding too dull on lower drive settings with the Tone cut).

For guitar I prefer the American Sound though, and as a preamp in an amp-less setup, rather than an overdrive, but for low gain overdrive I actually really like the Orange Juice for guitar as well.

There must be some way to electronically bypass the analog cab sim filter of the Oxford Sound though, which I think might be the culprit of it's low end loss, and the reason why it doesn't sound like the Orange Juice, so that if modded, however you are supposed do that, it would basically be an Orange Juice with extended EQ section.

 

[Bastijnv]

Another big Orange Juice fan here. I play flatwound strings (5 strings, tuned down three steps to C#) with a light (finger) touch. That's not an easy starting position for articulated dirt. I have tried a bunch of pedals to get a low gain OD sound, but none of them delivered. They either turned too harsh or too muddy. I bought the OJ a couple years ago, but it has been collecting dust because of the loss of low end. But lately I acquired a Great Eastern Effects XO and the OJ is now always on. I got a low freq band with compression, and a high freq band with dirt. I feed a preamp (VT Bass) into the OJ to add a little extra volume and brightness to my clean sound. The OJ turns that into my desired low gain OD, without mud, or high gain artifacts, or buzz. I also use the OJ after a gated fuzz to make it sound less harsh and more organic.

Conclusion, if you have a freq split possibility, or if you are ok with a more classic clean blend like the LS2, this is a great pedal.