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Who here plays in a hard rock/metal band?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by 5s_tring freak, Aug 19, 2002.


  1. I realize many here like and probably play hard rock or metal. I was interested in what your approach to playing this style is.

    I play in a fairly modern (but not numetal) sounding hard rock band that sounds like a cross between Tool and Sevendust.

    I see myself in this style of music a the backbone, and piece of the puzzle that hold it all together. I do a fair amount of root note thumping, and often play with a pick to get more definition.
    I dont try to overplay but i do add my own little touches in each song, and some songs the bassline is very prominent and quite involved/complicated.

    how do each of you approach playing in this style?
     
  2. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    I guess one would call Downfall a heavy band.

    We could be called a cross between Dream Theater, Disturbed, and Journey. I do overplay. I hate when people say "I'm trying not to overplay." Each of us do a fair amount of playing. We are a rhythm section heavy band, we make sure the guitar isn't overpowering in the mix. I do _some_ root note work, but more often I'll spice it up, playing a 5th below the guitar or something. We come from the tool camp with guitar/bass interplay. Imagine Tool with a finger playing bassist playing a 7 string, and the guitarist playing a baritone. Then you kinda of have an idea of what we are kind of going for, mix and stylistically anyway.

    Anyway....

    I play as much as the song calls for. We have a song where the guitarist is doing a D-C-Bb-C line, and pretty much the whole song, I'm playing a bass solo with vocals. It adds variety. In another song, our drummer is doing a heavy, tribal tom thing through the first half, then goes danny carey on the second. I am playing a 1 bar ostinato through the whole song, and when I'm not doing that (choruses) I am playing 1/4 note C#, 1/4 rest, 1/4 note C#, 1/4 rest. In another song, in the verses I am playing the guitar line, a 5th down through the first half of the verse, then I go up and match his pitch, down an octave. Some songs, I play completely opposing lines to him, some songs I play chordal stuff, some songs I double.

    It's all about the versatility.
     
  3. My band is pretty much old school thrash/speed metal, with a bit of death metal thrown around :)

    Anyhow, many of our riffs are quite complex so there isnt room to do much more. So rooting it out .... well, thrash metal is more note based than chord anyhow.

    I've started to sing too, so I cant get too complicated yet or I get lost ... its new for me to sing and play. I dont know if I'll stick with the singing .... I like to jam out!
     
  4. Sometimes I try to play entirely different stuff than the guitarist but I usually end up just hitting root notes with little variations and fills here and there. I end up following the guitarist more than the drummer which isn't good, but our drummer sucks which makes it hard on me. He is also an idiot, he just bought a real nice set of pearls used for $1200 and he just skipped our jam session on Saturday because he said he wanted to go to the Casino :rolleyes:.
     
  5. heh, that blows. I am finally playing with a drummer I really get along with. You brought up a good point, one I failed to mention, that of locking in with the drummer. We have a great time, and that's important to me in my playing. Not only do we get along, but are always communicating with each other to try this or that, or don't do this or that. Its working out pretty good. Once we fire our current singer and figure out what to do vocally full time, we'll be all set :)
     
  6. The term "hard rock" is so broad, as far as what passes for it these days. There was a simpler time when hard rock was still coming out of its roots and being defined by second-wave-first generation bands. I submit that all one needs to learn about song-serving, melodic hard rock bass playing (with the exception of slap styles) can be found on "All the World's a Stage." My band would be best described as having this sound, and perhaps a bit more civilized range to the vocals (as opposed to the occasional screechiness of the otherwise-godlike Geddy Lee). Actually IMO Geddy has a great vocal sound on the album, but it's nice to sing in a range a bit more closer to that of your own conversational voice.
    Fingers, pick, thumb; whatever the material works best with...mostly fingers for me. I think that to really expand one's rock bass horizons one must listen to other styles of ensemble music, including soloists. Learn what makes the chord structures and voicings work together. Develop your ear, keep hyour chops up, and one day, not only are you this all-over-the-neck Entwistle/Squire/Lee type, but you can hang in other musical idioms as well.
     
  7. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca
    that's pretty much mine!

    one of my songs best exemplifies this. for the verses, it's just holdin' down the roots. but for the choruses, i'm playing higher-register melodies to propell the song in a more energetic direction.

    i just cater to the song's needs. my note selection and even technique are dictated by what i think the song calls for. just listen for space and "play it when you hear it."
     
  8. To pull the bass out from the rhythm section to be more recognized with a lead attention, but keeping the groove and feel of the song at the same time...


    i think?
     
  9. I'm playing with an Extreme Metal or Technical Brutal Death Metal band. My tone is probably the first part of what I care about. Its really bright and very slappable and somewhat raw sounding. No mids just highs and bass like metal guitar eq'ing. This way I will only make the band sound heavier with the low notes, cause all you'll hear is maybe some clicks and bass. For the parts I can shine one I try to play different from what the guitars are doing or cut my own way by slapping the line. Like in one like were doing this triplet thing and im playing it finger style but theres a blunt B stacato part where I slap the B and it helps punch and cut the bass through. I haven't made material with them yet, but when I do I am going to do some crazy stuff that will not be the same part as the guitars but sound very tightly knit/
     
  10. fadlan bassman

    fadlan bassman

    Oct 23, 2001
    Austin,Tx
    I play in a band that is a cross between the Deftones and Tool. I just joined these guys and I just pretty much just learned their songs(6 originals) But I love slap and melodic stuff like flea/chancellor combined. which I am working to achieve. But right now I am just playing along with rhythm guitar and drums. I really want bring out the FUNK.
     
  11. Brendan

    Brendan

    Jun 18, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Play in a death metal/hardcore act. By hardcore, I mean Vision of Disorder, old Biohazard, ect.
     
  12. Pharmecopia

    Pharmecopia

    Jul 31, 2002
    Hymns of Saturn

    my band is also listed on the Kansas City Hardcore Showcase, here

    check us out :cool: