Who is holding the torch?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by beermonkey, Nov 25, 2001.

  1. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    Who in the Led Zeppelin of now? What band that is popular right now is going to be looked on as "gods" of rock & roll in 15-20 years? No one. The music industry has successfully killed popular music and has turned it into an advertising campaign. It's sad.
  2. melvin


    Apr 28, 2001
    What about Tool? Both bands have this kind of mystery surrounding them. And Tool has done good with their cds. Plus they just plain kick arse.

    There are still good bands, you just have to look
  3. Modern bands that will become legends and will be remembered like bands such as Led Zep, The Doors, Pink Floyd and the Rolling Stones would be:
    Pearl Jam
    Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    But thats about it. This has got to be the driest time in rock music history since Elvis got it going.
  4. kirbywrx

    kirbywrx formerly James Hetfield

    Jul 27, 2000
    Melbourne, Australia.
    I THINK Metallica are goona end up brokwe in the gutter from sueing everybody...they are sueing revlon the makeup company because they named a lipstick color called "Metallica":rolleyes:

    but this aint bout good ol tallica is it?:D
  5. Hategear

    Hategear Workin' hard at hardly workin'.

    Apr 6, 2001
    Appleton, Swissconsin
    What about AC/DC?

    I agree with you, beermonkey. I don't think that bands today are meant to stand the test of time. Everyone is content with getting in, getting their share of the pie and then getting out again. I have been saying for years that if Led Zeppelin, or Black Sabbath, or the Rolling Stones were to debut tomorrow, they wouldn't stand a chance of making it. I don't just blame the musicians, producers and/or music companies though -- a lot of the blame is (and should be) placed on the buying public, for tolerating some of these cookie-cutter acts.

    It's kinda sad when you think about it.

    EDIT: Damn those typos! I hate 'em!
  6. Yep, Metallica could have become legends, but now they will only be remembered as totally greedy corporate wankers. Yeah guys, keep posing as dangerous rebels, and every time someone upsets you run off to court...
  7. What about Collective Soul?
    I've been listening to them since '97 or so, and still love 'em...

    Or is it just me? :p
  8. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Say what you will about Metallica, and I agree to an extent, but they will be remembered on the strength of their former selves. Overall, I don't see any of the bands of today being called legendary, that's why the Stones, Aerosmith, and my all time faves Steely Dan are still recording. They know that these clowns aren't capable of taking care of it. It's really not the bands' fault, they're being forced to "play the game".
  9. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    What about Ozzy?
  10. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Ozzy is ALREADY a legend, so he doesn't count. That's just like asking, "What about Sabbath?"
    We're talking about the bands from the past decade or so.
  11. what about dream theater or primus? sure they never really got extremely poplular but they can still kick some a$$.
  12. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    Radiohead should be legends just by this:

    Radiohead breaks up Limp Bizkit
    Well, maybe not... hehehe...

    Why did Limp Bizkit's Wes Borland leave the band? Fred Durst may have the answer: "It's all about the music. We were trying to write the new album, and Wes was writing very eclectic stuff, and he became very, very obsessed with Radiohead. Maybe a month later, he just gave up. He's a human being, and he's allowed to feel that way."

    From RollingStone.com

    LOL :D:D
  13. eli

    eli Mad showoff 7-stringer and Wish lover Supporting Member

    Dec 12, 1999
    NW suburban Chicago
    As far as holding the torch, I gotta agree with Aerosmith. They are the ONLY rock'n'roll band who NEVER played a note of disco all thru the 70's (even the Stones did -- remember "Miss You"?). They have certainly kept the fire lit, but I can't say they'll be revered as gods in coming decades as Zep are now.

    Who has really broken new ground and redefined popular rock music in the last 15 years?
  14. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    IMHO, no one...
    And it's too bad bands are being forced to "play the game"(as WarwickNut sez)-
    Early Rock music was supposed to be about experimentation & rebellion, i.e. not about dumbing it down, not about playing it safe, & not about apeing what happens to be the 'Pop' du jour.

    FWIW, many critics say Coltrane was Jazz' last great innovator...it's been over 30 years since 'Trane's death.
  15. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i don't know, there's different out there, very different, i think the problem is that people expect to get it handed to them via the popular music outlets, and it's not going to happen.

    as for "who's going to do something different and get really popular like led zeppelin", someone please tell me again, what was it that zeppelin did so differently?
  16. melvin


    Apr 28, 2001
    That is grand! But Im sure they kicked him because they thought his stuff was to wierd.

    I still think Tool or Radiohead are the next "Zeppelins" look how far ahead of their time they are, people are just starting to sound like how Radiohead sounded when they released OK Computer, that was, what? 4 years ago?
  17. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    Hey, JT...granted there is "different" out there NOT to be found in the "popular outlets". BUT, the initial post mentioned "popular". So- ;)

    Now, as far as what Zep did-
    (& from a guy who got Led Zep III on his 11th birthday).
    LZ was able to incorporate R&B-ish bass figures with a Hard Rock-edged guitar; in short, a melding of American Blues with a 'new' genre(at that time).
    Additionally, LZ was able to maintain a certain 'heaviness' even in their stripped-down ACOUSTIC numbers.
    I guess, by today's standards(cough-cough), LZ seems typical...I dunno, IMO, there's still a sense of urgency in their music. 30+ years now, I'm still diggin' their stuff, albeit in a whole different light than I did back in my teens.

    Thinking back to what was "Popular" in Rock music back then....man. How many "Popular" Rock bands of today would have the balls(& TALENT)to tackle a tune like "Undun"(The Guess Who).
    (In a whisper), this past week I re-visited some Alice Cooper discs...again, here's a "Pop" Rock group using swing/shuffles & clarinets/horns on certain tunes.
    In short, I recall a lot more diversity from those (now)Classic Rock acts vs. the overwhelming majority of what's so "happening" today....and bands back then were putting out TWO albums per year!

    I could "Ramble On" & on...but I won't.
  18. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    Hey JT, like JimK said, the melding of styles is what Led Zeppelin did that was original.

    Heavy guitar was not new, over the top drumming was not new, R&B style bass was not new, heck, even Plant's over the top vocalizing over instrumental sections was not new, it was just new to mainstream audiences, but they took all of these elements and melded them together for the first time.

    Heavy metal had been around for 2 or 3 years(of course, I don't consider Zep metal), but they had the first metal drummer that was technically sound and could drive the band with clockwork precision. Keith Moon was the first metal drummer IMHO, but he was apt to lose the beat at any time.
  19. take it from a college kid: zep is as "cool" as they ever were. they have godlike status among my friends and i.
  20. yawnsie


    Apr 11, 2000
    Where are the new Zeppelin, or anyone of their like? I often ask myself the same question. My personal (and ever so slightly egotistical) hope is that my own band is going to be the next to get anywhere close - someone's got to, so we might as well have a go, mightn't we? ;)