Yeah he is kind of forgotten these days. I first heard him on Al DiMeola's solo records and we saw Abe a few years ago playing with the Crusaders at a large outdoor winery concert. He fit in perfectly and was dressed all in white even his bass was white. Joe Sample and Stix Hooper were all that was left of the original members. And who was playing guitar you ask? Does anyone remember Ray Parker Jr.? He was pretty good too and a great rhythm player but not much in the solo dept.