Who Wants a Dingwall???

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Geoff St. Germaine, Dec 16, 2001.

  1. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

  2. Brendan


    Jun 18, 2000
    Portland, OR

    GAS...rising!....RISING! AGH!!!!
  3. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    You think you have it bad. I am thinking of buying it because it has a maple fretboard, and mine is identical to it otherwise.

    Hey, mine needs a friend.

    And with the Prima 6 on order...no....must stop...money burning hole....

  4. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

  5. cap


    Aug 8, 2001
    Hickam Hawaii
    This comming from a completly un-educated Bass player so dont slap me round but that must sound realllllly good....looks cool too.....go for it....:D
  6. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    Anybody have any idea what wood that the body might be. I emailed the guy selling it, who isn't the owner and he says it is solid ash. I thought it was a top on the ash, like mine, but I guess the whole bass is like that, but I have never seen a piece of ash like that before, looks like maybe some spalting on the right side of the body. Maybe it is just a crazy piece of ash??

    Maybe I will have to email Sheldon to find out.:D

  7. Shumph


    Aug 25, 2001
    On the move
    Can some one give me a little background on dingwall? How do they sound and play. What do they cost usually etc?


  8. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    A good place to check them out is www.dingwallguitars.com. The sit is a bit out of date, cause Sheldon is so busy, right now I have a 6 string on order that won't be ready till probably the end of summer. But hey, I'll wait.

    Another place in www.bassnw.com, they have a 6 string Dingwall in the New Exotic Basses section that is very similarr to the bass I will be getting.

    I suggest checking into some old threads. There was a big one in setup a while ago called \\|// Fanned Frets, or something like that. If you have more specific questions, I can probably help, but to answer to your question now would be huge.

    Oh, here is the one I have now.


    They usually run $3000-$4000US new. That one on ebay is a huge deal right now, if it is in as good a shape as the picture indicate. That bass would probably be ~$3300US new with those options.

  9. I think that guy from Low End Basses Store is bidding on it and I wonder how much will he sell the bass at his store. Aaaaah ,the joy of business.
  10. John Davis

    John Davis Guest

    Mar 27, 2001
    Houston, Texas
    The neck looks a bit twisted to me.
  11. I just thought I'd mention how strange it is that, being from Canada, we usually get shafted on the exchange rate because our dollar is really low compared to the U.S.. We're continuously having to pay more money for products that come out of the States. However, Dingwall basses which are made in Canada, and seem to go for much less here than they do in the States. Of course there are customs, tariffs, and all those other things that have to be paid once a product crosses the border, so I'm sure that does make a difference.

    My point being is that dingz2 mentioned a new Dingwall runs for about $3000 - $4000 U.S., whereas in Canada, the highest I've ever seen a Dingwall was listed at $3700 Cdn. It was a 6, their highest model I believe, with Bartolini's and the drop A tuner on the B. It was a really beautiful bass. I was thinking of getting it but went for a Cirrus instead.

    So $3700 Cdn. works out to approx. $2400 U.S.. Quite a change I thought. My buddy also picked up a Dingwall 6. Same bass and everything as the other, minus the drop A tuner, for just under $2000 Cdn. The thing had been a demo at Namm 2000 he was told so Sheldon let him have it cheap.

    Anyhow, enough blabbering. I find I always talk about this subject and I'm sure most people don't give two hoots about it. But, the moral being ;), next time you visit your neighbours to the North, bring your bass, trade it off, and come back with a shiny new Dingwall, and maybe you can save yourself $1000! That's if you don't let Uncle Sam know, but not like I would do it...
  12. geshel


    Oct 2, 2001
    I didn't think that looked like ash either. Looks like a maple burl, but it's not so distinctive that I'd be sure of it.

    I wonder if Brian's (TheLowEnd guy) policy is to bid on basses that don't seem to have any interest, or if he decides he has to have a bass he'll outbid others. I could see the former as a valuable service - he takes the time to keep an eye out for interesting Ebay finds, and makes it easy for people to find them later - his website (or again on Ebay). The latter though, gobbling up all interesting basses and reselling them, would bother me. Does he add anything to the process (professional setup, ... )? I guess one benefit is that you're dealing with a known seller when you buy from him.
  13. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    Ya I noticed the same about the Dingwalls. I buy my basses through Axe Music, which is where I presume you saw the 6 String for $3700. I played that bass when I was ordering my Dingwall 6. Rod at Axe told me that that bass was built for someone who didn't take it. It was a really great deal. That bass lists for over $5200 CDN. At that price it should retail for about $4200.

    My bass right now was ~$2900 at Axe. The same bass at BassNW was $3200US!!!

    The bass I ordered throuh Axe is $4540 CDN. The Dingwall at Bass Northwest is $3799 US, which translates to roughly $6200 CDN. Which is almost $2K different. :eek:

    That is why it is so great the Sheldon is on our side!!!;)

    Rod also told me he deals with lots of American customers on his Dingwalls.

  14. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    As someone who sells used gear, eBay is one place he can find things. I would guess he'd want to get it at a point where he could still make a profit selling it.

    I don't have a problem with that... anyone can bid on the basses when they're on eBay.
  15. geshel


    Oct 2, 2001
    Well, he just bought a black '79 Stingray for $711 on Ebay, and his site lists it for $1450. Everybody can use their own judgement on that one.
  16. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    I talked to Sheldon and he confirmed that in fact the bass is not solid ash. Apparently it is a Quilted/Spalted Maple top on dual density ash, and it is a full width top too. Seems like some really rare stuff. And so much cooler. But not necessarily better;) .

    Anyway, as is that is a great deal on that bass, especially given the top. It is a pretty custom deal!!

  17. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    I understand your point but what "should" he sell it for? He got a great deal on eBay... that anyone who follows eBay could have bid on. Should he sell for what he has in it?

    I found a like new Peavey Cirrus 5 at a local pawnshop for $600. If I sell it, what price should I ask; what it's worth or what I paid for it? Got a 78 Jazz last year for $500... same question. It's worth triple that, by what you're inferring if I sold it it should be for $500.

    I look at it as someone running a business using the available supply chain. Brian's not the only one doing it, there are several storefront dealers who do the same... and believe it or not, sometimes they get stuck. Should they leave the stuff for others? I can't see why.

    Anyone can do the research and find this stuff. Brian found that one and won the auction. I guess what I'm saying is... in my judgement, if I wanted that bass for less than Brian's asking price I should have followed eBay and bid on it. Besides, he's not your biggest potential competition on eBay because he needs to buy at below what he thinks its worth.
  18. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    I have to agree with Brad. Given the whole free market thing and all.

    And he isn't marking them up to a price that is unreasonable for the instrument, he just chooses to make up the difference between what he paid and what it's worth as profit.

    I don't see anything wrong with his prices, in fact most of the prices I have seen have been really reasonable.

  19. geshel


    Oct 2, 2001
    OK. Good points. I was going to continue but this isn't really the place, so I'll leave it at that.
  20. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    Thought this might be interesting: in the last month or so two basses that I was going to buy were purchased by someone else and listed for sale shortly thereafter... at a higher price.

    Each is about $300 more than originally priced. I'm no longer interested;)

    Ahh... the free market