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Whole Note Scale

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by LiquidMidnight, Jun 13, 2002.


  1. LiquidMidnight

    LiquidMidnight

    Dec 25, 2000
    What is the function and purpose of this very unusual scale?
     
  2. fivestringdan

    fivestringdan Supporting Member

    Dec 4, 2001
    Little Rock, AR
    Do you mean Whole Tone Scale?

    A Whole Note Scale is not a scale at all. Unless you play a scale(any scale) in a whole note succession.
     
  3. AltecJ

    AltecJ

    May 28, 2002
    I use the whole tone scale to solo over augmented 7th chords other than that I don't know.
     
  4. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    The whole tone scale is a scale built using nothing but whole steps (two fret distances). When compared with a major scale it looks like this: 1 2 3 #4 #5 #6(b7) 1.

    As AltecJ mentioned they can be used over Augmented chords, but they have other uses. They're nice over altered dominant chords (#11, b13, #9) or over dominant chords to create tension. I'm sure others here have even more creative applications for them.
     
  5. LiquidMidnight

    LiquidMidnight

    Dec 25, 2000
    Thanks Pacman, that helps a lot, and yeah, that's what I meant, a whole TONE scale.

    *does Homer Simpson style "Doh" *

    :D
     
  6. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    It makes me uncomfortable that the thread about DUCKS has 5 times as many posts as this thread.
     
  7. Aaron

    Aaron

    Jun 2, 2001
    Bellingham, WA
    whole tone scales work well for dream sequences used in plays/musicals.
     
  8. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Which is really, just a reference to it's use over an augmented scale.
     
  9. I read once that Frank Zappa enjoyed playing and soloing with whole tone scales.
     
  10. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    And remember, since the Whole Tone scale is symmetrical, there are only two different "keys" to learn it in, and then everything else is just a mode of one or the other. Ask Jazzbo about this sometime...
     
  11. PhatBasstard

    PhatBasstard Spector Dissector Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2002
    Las Vegas, NV.
    Also works over 7b5 chords as well as the others mentioned.
     
  12. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    True. You can also ask Chris sometime about kissing my Puerto-Rican *** ......


    :D
     
  13. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY

    Fair enough. I think I'll call this one a draw and bow out gracefully at this point. :cool:

    I should mention in parting that every time I see this thread title, all I can think of is someone asking how to play a really, REALLY slow scale.
     
  14. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    It doesn't have to be that way. Just picture it at 450bpm.
     
  15. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    hey jazzbo, whats he talking about?? ;) :D
     
  16. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
  17. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
  18. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Okay. So I rip on you and you come back at me with a compliment and now I look like the jerk.

    I guess you really are a great guy....

    I'm so sorry for even thinking ....

    Can you forgive me for my stupidity ....

    (*snortle*)
     
  19. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca
    i've read that augmented chords/arpeggios (is there actually an augmented scale? one of the modes of the harmonic minor scale-the 6th?-is essentially it...i reckon it depends on who you ask!) are supposed to sound euphoric, the opposite of the impact of a diminished chord.

    but whenever i play a root-major third-augmented fifth, it sounds kinda ugly. the augmented fifth sounds more like a minor sixth (same interval, same note-possibly-, different connotations). i don't play it in context, so i guess that's why...

    how do you get an augmented chord to sound pleasing?
     
  20. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Typo. I meant augmented chord. Sorry.