Who's bowing guts, and what are you using?

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by john allemond, Jun 10, 2020.

  1. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    I have one of my basses set up with plain guts for arco...Pistoy G D, mystery A E...anyone else using guts for arco? John
     
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  2. John Chambliss

    John Chambliss Supporting Member

    Nov 11, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    I've been doing test runs with guts and arco with various strings combinations all with a Spiro Mitt E. In my test lab, I have for use:
    G - Plain Dlugolecki and Lentzner
    D - Plain Chorda and Efrano
    A - Gamut Silver Wrapped and Plain Lentzner

    I've been happy with the combination of G and D strings, less so with the A. I would prefer a Gamut Pistoy A which will need to wait. In the meantime, I have one bass strung with Spiros, and one bass with mostly guts. I am back to spending more time practicing on the bass with the Spiros. Trying to get a good singing arco sound on guts is taking me more time.
     
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  3. unbrokenchain

    unbrokenchain Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Black Mountain, NC
    Full set of Lenzners (wound A/E) on my Kay. I'm actually really digging the arco feel and sound, despite it being a ply. Totally different beast than my carved+spiros. I find the tone to be something like a bari sax, gritty and full of soul. Have tried Pop's, Carlsson's, and Pirastro cello rosin on them, and Pop's is my least favorite - great for the low E but just too sticky to sound right on the bare guts imo/on my bass. Was happy with the cello rosin until the humidity picked back up, now I'm favoring the Carlsson's with rather tight hair. Have to remember to loosen it back up when I switch to my other bass.
     
  4. JeffKissell

    JeffKissell Supporting Member

    Nov 21, 2004
    Soquel, CA
    Spiro weich E & A (s42)
    Med Pistoy D (varnished)
    Med Lyon G (varnished)
    Unknown wood bow with white hair
    Gaston Oak med + (???)
    I much prefer silver wound gut E & A to the Spirocore (especially arco) but you can't argue with the tuning stability and my wound gut strings are in bad shape.
    FWIW, I'm pretty horrible at bowing.
     
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  5. 210superair

    210superair

    Sep 10, 2019
    Unwound lezners.
     
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  6. TideSwing

    TideSwing Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2014
    Las Vegas
    This thread is tempting me to put the full Gamut set back on:
    Copper wound E - light
    Copper wound A - light
    Pistoy D - light
    Lyon G - light
     
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  7. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Wow, thanks for feedback...the full plain guts have a super organic sound...I've tried wound A and E and like them to...I've also tried blending various metal A and E with plain G and D but too much of a difference...Kolstein and Petz rosin...2 bows one white one dark...I go back and forth...I'm waiting for a Pistoy A to come up for sale...hint, hint..
     
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  8. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Do it bruh! Seeing your post imma thinking on the copper Gamuts
     
  9. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    I suck with the bow but love the tone!
     
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  10. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Nice analogy on the bari!
     
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  11. John Chambliss

    John Chambliss Supporting Member

    Nov 11, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    That might be a better alternative to the Silverplate Gamut where the outlayer is left round and can be felt.
     
  12. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Thanks John
     
  13. 210superair

    210superair

    Sep 10, 2019
    I prefer the bottom two wound but found for multiple reasons they didn't last long for me, so I switched to pure. Hated the a and especially E at first, but they've grown on me a little. Really last weekend was the first time I've truly put them through their paces with other musicians. It was a tuning fiasco, but they do seem to be settling in...
     
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  14. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Thanks for responding...that plain E takes some getting used to but as you said it grows on you...would love to try full set of Pistoys...maybe if the government hands out more dough. Lol
     
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  15. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Carved bass (the one I do my practicing and lessons with):
    Oliv G, D, A; Spiro weich E (did have Eudoxa E but it failed).

    Plywood bass - mostly for pizz but I can bow it okay:
    Lenzner G and D, Spiro weich A and E.
     
  16. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Nashville TN
    i am loving my olive G. i wonder if people would like perpetual E and maybe A under guts. they seem flexible enough. on my shen they seemed like a good option for gut tops
     
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  17. G, D, and A -- Nicholas Baldock plain gut, 2.3mm, 2.85, and 3.7mm respectively.

    For the E I've used Anima and a Spiro Solo F# tuned down, both blend very well for pizz and arco. BUT, I just installed a Gamut copper-wound heavy E. Glorious warm sound across the whole bass.
     
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  18. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Are his strings still available? And where? Thank you.
     
  19. Yup, as far as I know -- Baldock.de Strings+Instruments

    I should mention that I'm using the "Antiquus" line. If you search youtube for John Feeney you can hear him playing the same ones.
     
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  20. john allemond

    john allemond Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2009
    Thanks so much!