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Who's making mechanical extensions now?

Discussion in 'Setup & Repair [DB]' started by Pacman, Dec 3, 2003.


  1. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Does anyone know of anyone making mechanical extensions these days?
     
  2. kip

    kip

    Sep 11, 2002
    Sausalito, Ca
    Not since Viagra. I'll bet you knew that was coming.

    Seriously, you mean like C extensions? I don't have one, but K.C. Strings, Robertson's and just saw www.heartlandsbs.com. I believe they all make em.
     
  3. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Those are gated extensions, I'm looking for a mechanical extension.

    By the way, I've found one, made by Stenholm. Robertson's can get them and put them on, at a pretty hefty price. My teacher has one, as does Lynn Seaton, and I'm just GASing for one. I'll probably get one eventually....
     
  4. Pecanic tailpiece, mechanical extension -- By the time you're done hot-rodding it, that'll be one helluva tricked-out Christopher!
     
  5. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    i take it Prado doesn't know? Just curious...:)
     
  6. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    I'm a sucker for knowledge. What's a mechanical extension if it's not a gated C-extension?
     
  7. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    Actually, George took from Steve, too. And he does know. He understands.
     
  8. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    You can see one on this bass. Basically, it has levers that you can press for each of the notes - it allows you to use all of them without the awkwardness of fingering around the scroll.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    what i was trying to say is, i guess george doesn't know where to get one installed...
     
  10. John Sprague

    John Sprague Sam Shen's US Distributor

    Mar 10, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Sales Manager, CSC Products Inc.
    I think it's about high time for an inventive guy like DR. MIKANIC to invent an extension that goes on easy, is low cost, and solves all the extension-related issues like playability, excessive cutting & drilling, labor-intensive install, and such. Mike I bet they'd go like hotcakes (though how do hotcakes go, really?), and I'd buy the first 50 for OEMing. :) If you made them, they'd be good.

    Folks are always asking for an inexpensive, non-intrusive solution. It would be cool if there was such a thing.
     
  11. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    ...Oh, I haven't seen him in a while. I was talking about Steve's bass - george's bass has a gated extension.
     
  12. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    Thanks very much for the illustration Pacman. Worth a 1000 words.
     
  13. Hi Pacman,
    I did every extension that came out of Robertson & Sons in the last 4 years. As far as mechanical extensions go, I was very impressed with the Peter Barnaby extension I put on for Nick Tsolainos of the Dallas Symphony. Then there is the one form Bob Stenholm that you mentioned.

    PM me or give me a call if you have any more questions.
    866-730-0731

    Take Care,
    Chris
     
  14. These were originally called Horst extensions, invented by Denver Symphony bassist Alex Horst back in the 50s I think.
    Pac, get in touch with Bob Monroney, one of our TBers. He bought out all the ones that some guy had here in Colorado. I think he had a bunch!
    www.bobnlala@comcast.net 303-442-0496
    Actually, we just took one off a wonderful Morelli that Bob Ross restored. I don't know what kind of shape it's in, but if you want it, let me know and i'll get it and send it to you. Maybe check with Monroney first since those are new, meanwhile i'll go get this old one from Bob and let you know what kind of shape it's in.
    Also, i'm assuming you know the downsides of these things. They are noisy as hell when you engage that lever to knock them down to the low C. Also i'm not too sure how much is needed to actually install one on your bass. Maybe Chris can enlighten us on that. The results of the butchery i've seen to get them installed is horrific! Who ever did the work on this Morelli I have was a fool. He took off all the volutes of the scroll on the right side of the bass. Bob had to recarve them, and graft them on the bass.
    By the way, what dealer is that picture of basses you posted from? I'd appreciate a link!
     
  15. Nuno A.

    Nuno A. Velvet Strings Customer Service

    Jul 9, 2001
    SWITZERLAND
    I really like the picture you posted Pacman, it sure looks like a beautifull place to visit....

    NUNO
     
  16. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    I want to thank everyone who's offered help here! I started out thinking there was NO information about these things available, and I've gotten 3 different sources and plenty of good advice (and even an offer on a used one!)! This is why Talkbass is the greatest website ever! You guys rock.


    Paul - PM sent.

    And the link to the site I found that picture on is: http://www.nahrmannbass.com/basses/index.html
     
  17. arnoldschnitzer

    arnoldschnitzer AES Fine Instruments

    Feb 16, 2002
    Brewster, NY, USA
    1) noisy
    2) constantly in and out of adjustment
    3) weight
    4) inevitable buzzes, which usually cannot be cured
    5) damping effect on tone
    6) gets in the way of playing low positions on E string
    7) nobody wants to work on them
    8) intonation
    9) can't make vibrato
    10) looks like someone grafted a flute to your bass

    I guess you can tell I despise those things...
     
  18. Hi Chris. Welcome to Talkbass. It's always great to have another luthier/maker join us. Hopefully, the next time I'm up in Iowa , I can come by and meet you in person. My wife is from Oskaloosa.
     
  19. John Sprague

    John Sprague Sam Shen's US Distributor

    Mar 10, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Sales Manager, CSC Products Inc.
    C'mon Ahnold, don't sugar-coat it like that, tell us how you really feel. :D
     
  20. Martin Sheridan

    Martin Sheridan

    Jan 4, 2001
    Fort Madison, Iowa
    Bass Maker
    I agree with Arnold 100 percent, and will add that the notes are backwards!

    Yasha Israelev who designed our extensions is currently designing a mechanical one. I'll bet that when he's through he will have solved most of those problems. Stay tuned.
    To see his work:wwwkcstrings.com.