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Discussion in 'Setup & Repair [DB]' started by Pacman, Dec 3, 2003.
Does anyone know of anyone making mechanical extensions these days?
Not since Viagra. I'll bet you knew that was coming.
Seriously, you mean like C extensions? I don't have one, but K.C. Strings, Robertson's and just saw www.heartlandsbs.com. I believe they all make em.
Those are gated extensions, I'm looking for a mechanical extension.
By the way, I've found one, made by Stenholm. Robertson's can get them and put them on, at a pretty hefty price. My teacher has one, as does Lynn Seaton, and I'm just GASing for one. I'll probably get one eventually....
Pecanic tailpiece, mechanical extension -- By the time you're done hot-rodding it, that'll be one helluva tricked-out Christopher!
i take it Prado doesn't know? Just curious...
I'm a sucker for knowledge. What's a mechanical extension if it's not a gated C-extension?
Actually, George took from Steve, too. And he does know. He understands.
You can see one on this bass. Basically, it has levers that you can press for each of the notes - it allows you to use all of them without the awkwardness of fingering around the scroll.
what i was trying to say is, i guess george doesn't know where to get one installed...
I think it's about high time for an inventive guy like DR. MIKANIC to invent an extension that goes on easy, is low cost, and solves all the extension-related issues like playability, excessive cutting & drilling, labor-intensive install, and such. Mike I bet they'd go like hotcakes (though how do hotcakes go, really?), and I'd buy the first 50 for OEMing. If you made them, they'd be good.
Folks are always asking for an inexpensive, non-intrusive solution. It would be cool if there was such a thing.
...Oh, I haven't seen him in a while. I was talking about Steve's bass - george's bass has a gated extension.
Thanks very much for the illustration Pacman. Worth a 1000 words.
I did every extension that came out of Robertson & Sons in the last 4 years. As far as mechanical extensions go, I was very impressed with the Peter Barnaby extension I put on for Nick Tsolainos of the Dallas Symphony. Then there is the one form Bob Stenholm that you mentioned.
PM me or give me a call if you have any more questions.
These were originally called Horst extensions, invented by Denver Symphony bassist Alex Horst back in the 50s I think.
Pac, get in touch with Bob Monroney, one of our TBers. He bought out all the ones that some guy had here in Colorado. I think he had a bunch!
Actually, we just took one off a wonderful Morelli that Bob Ross restored. I don't know what kind of shape it's in, but if you want it, let me know and i'll get it and send it to you. Maybe check with Monroney first since those are new, meanwhile i'll go get this old one from Bob and let you know what kind of shape it's in.
Also, i'm assuming you know the downsides of these things. They are noisy as hell when you engage that lever to knock them down to the low C. Also i'm not too sure how much is needed to actually install one on your bass. Maybe Chris can enlighten us on that. The results of the butchery i've seen to get them installed is horrific! Who ever did the work on this Morelli I have was a fool. He took off all the volutes of the scroll on the right side of the bass. Bob had to recarve them, and graft them on the bass.
By the way, what dealer is that picture of basses you posted from? I'd appreciate a link!
I really like the picture you posted Pacman, it sure looks like a beautifull place to visit....
I want to thank everyone who's offered help here! I started out thinking there was NO information about these things available, and I've gotten 3 different sources and plenty of good advice (and even an offer on a used one!)! This is why Talkbass is the greatest website ever! You guys rock.
Paul - PM sent.
And the link to the site I found that picture on is: http://www.nahrmannbass.com/basses/index.html
2) constantly in and out of adjustment
4) inevitable buzzes, which usually cannot be cured
5) damping effect on tone
6) gets in the way of playing low positions on E string
7) nobody wants to work on them
9) can't make vibrato
10) looks like someone grafted a flute to your bass
I guess you can tell I despise those things...
Hi Chris. Welcome to Talkbass. It's always great to have another luthier/maker join us. Hopefully, the next time I'm up in Iowa , I can come by and meet you in person. My wife is from Oskaloosa.
C'mon Ahnold, don't sugar-coat it like that, tell us how you really feel.
I agree with Arnold 100 percent, and will add that the notes are backwards!
Yasha Israelev who designed our extensions is currently designing a mechanical one. I'll bet that when he's through he will have solved most of those problems. Stay tuned.
To see his work:wwwkcstrings.com.