I've noticed a lot of metal guys hate Pantera. I personally love them, they are heavy yet they have a certain groove to their style. The only thing I can think of is they started out a failed hair metal band, but they've seen the light... I hope. Sure they're kinda posers. But look at really old shots of Slayer, they wore makeup, played their guitars with crosses, etc. Sounds poserish to me. Plus, look at them now, I mean, Kerry King thinks Slipknot is one of the greatest bands going right now, and did a song with SUM 41!!! How metal is even being seen not kicking Sum 41's ass? I love Slayer though, Reign in Blood is probably one of the greatest thrash albums of all time, some of the later stuff is OK, but Tom Araya lost his voice quite a bit. Anyhoo, why is Slayer held in such high regard to metal heads, but Pantera's awful? Watsamatta? Afraid of a little grrrrrrrrrooooooveeeee in your metal?