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Why does Fender crap on the US market?!

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Woodchuck, Sep 28, 2001.


  1. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    This is the James Jamerson sig model. This is from an ad @ the Bass Gallery in the UK. Why don't we get basses like these in the States? This isn't the only sig model not available, or marketed here either. They also make a Mark King sig model, too. What's the deal?! :confused:
     
  2. Comakazi

    Comakazi

    May 3, 2001
    Midwest US
    You got me...maybe it's because they can?
    They have the market so sturated here in the States they probably figure they can churn out "whatever" and we'll buy it -- which to a degree is true.
    By the way, what sig model is that? It looks sweet!:)
     
  3. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    James Jamerson
     
  4. I really don't know. Could it be that Fender uses foreign markets as a test bed for the U.S. market? Or maybe, they have inside info that we're not privy to and know that players in certain areas of the world outside the U.S. have preferences for these models? I be stumped.

    Mike J.
     
  5. ThunderStik

    ThunderStik Guest

    Jun 25, 2001
    Claremore OK.
    I dont know why they do that, but to me I really dont care about fenders that much. Im not knockin the people that play them and love them but really how many versions of the p and j do you need and about all of them are almost the exact same thing except for "rock god" knobs or the "kool daddy" tuners. Most of the ones i have played even all the mia basses to me are just substandard. I have seen a few mim's that where more solidly built than some mia's and I guess you will have that with all brands but after all these years I still dont understand why the just the fender name on something makes it great. That being said I still want a 72p but only because that was the year I was born. But I never have agreed with any company that does that, I feel everybody should have acess to all the stuff but I really think here in the USA alot of players (including myself) are playing alot of different basses and plus the USA is normally a "trendsetter" and alot of people overseas like american things. Wow i have said way to much , im sorry.
     
  6. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    I'm not a huge Fender fan either. I've had too many dead spot issues, but I would love to have a Victor Bailey sig. I'm just wondering why Fender markets a lot of cool stuff outside of the US.
     
  7. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Out of curiosity, I contacted Fender's customer service department regarding this very issue. The answer that I got is that sometimes basses are produced that don't look like they'd be particularly popular in the US. The guy also told me some models are not slated to be released in the US, but due to popularity, eventually are. An example is the Sting bass...

    You can analyze this in hundreds of different scenarios, and even plug in your own hypothesis...

    Could it be that Fender's trying to raise demand by keeping supply low???

    Could it be some weird copyright law that prevents basses with James Jamerson's name to be released without full authorization from his estate, but those laws don't apply overseas???

    Who really knows??? I would venture to guess that if there is enough demand for them, though, that they will be made available, at least in limited numbers.
     
  8. Comakazi

    Comakazi

    May 3, 2001
    Midwest US
    You know, though, I've got a back issue of Bass Player mag with an ad from, like, Bass Place?? Not shure if that's right, but they were advertising the James Jamerson sig bass. Maybe it didn't really take off and they found a better market over seas?
    Pure speculation.
     
  9. Comakazi

    Comakazi

    May 3, 2001
    Midwest US
    Ok, and excuse my apparent inability to read. Right there in your post, "This is the James Jamerson sig model".
    Yup, I is un idiot! DOH!!!!!:rolleyes:
     
  10. You are right about this model being offered in the US, but it was as a limited edition "tribute" model (Custom Shop, I believe). If you remember, when the original Funk Machine was stolen, Fender was offering to give one of the tribute models to whoever recovered it, no questions asked.
    fc
     
  11. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    LOL! Nah, sometimes we read fast, and our mind skips certain things. It's what makes us human! ;)
     
  12. eli

    eli Mad showoff 7-stringer and Wish lover Supporting Member

    Dec 12, 1999
    NW suburban Chicago
    I always wondered -- was the original FM ever recovered?
     
  13. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz

    Oct 18, 2000
    Oakland, CA
    US just gets screwed in general.


    for example: in germany you can get an all wheel drive, 204 horsepower, 6 speed, VW GOLF.


    yeah, you think it's bad with basses, look into some of the cars we can't get here. damn.



    jason
     
  14. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    As far as the Golf goes, that's our beloved governments fault. They have all of these restrictions for imported automobiles. Back in '85 I got to drive an Audi on the Autobahn. To quote Blur: "Woo Hoo!" :p
     
  15. Are you refering to Bootsys' bass. If so I think I read somewhere in Bass Player lately that it had been returned to him and is under constant lock and key
     
  16. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    No, James Jamerson's bass. He used to call it the Funk Machine. It was stolen, and never recovered.
     
  17. Mr. Grieves

    Mr. Grieves

    Jul 16, 2001
    chicago, il
    That James Jamerson is one sweet looking bass.

    I doubt that salability is the issue. Though that is basically a '62 reissue P, isn't it? Maybe they're afraid of confusing people more than they already do. At least the Sting bass is a unique entity, unless you're willing to go the custom shop route.

    I really object to the way they've tried to cut off access to the MIJ instruments. The MIJs are a great value for the money.
     
  18. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    You got that right. I've had better success with the MIJ's than I have with the MIA's