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Why don't they sell "dead" flats?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Frenchy-Lefty, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. It seems that a lot of us like the sound of old "dead" flat. I have always wondered why string manufacturers don't attempt to engineer a flatwound string that sounds like a 10 yrs old string right out of the box.
    From my experience the GHS 95-45 I got on my P-Bass are the closest ones to that idea. They sound thumpy without much sustain from day one.
    Anyhow, it could be a marketing concept similar to "distressed" instruments...
    Thoughts? Am I a dumbass?
  2. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jan 29, 2008
    I convert 4 string Rickenbackers to 5 string basses.
    hmmm ... the reason I went to rounds is because flats were too dead ...

    Try a block of foam rubber at the bridge. That will make any string dead.
  3. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    Nylon tapewounds.
  4. One Drop

    One Drop

    Oct 10, 2004
    Swiss Alps
    Because after a while it'll sound like a 20 year old set.
  5. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    No sir it's really a nice idea I wonder what "dead" dead flats would sound like :).
  6. tylerwylie


    Jan 5, 2008
    Dunwoody, GA
    Isn't dead flat a bit redundant?
  7. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
  8. How would they achieve this? Coat it in oil?
  9. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    They could give me a news set and wait a week.
  10. Bassamatic

    Bassamatic keepin' the beat since the 60's Supporting Member

    Just eat a bucket of chicken while you are installing your strings and before your first practice session. If that is not enough, add some foam near the bridge. It makes a huge difference.
  11. ggvicviper

    ggvicviper Fender, EBMM, Rickenbacker, BSX. I'm Marc! Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2011
    East Meadow, NY, USA
    I bought some DR flats once. They sounded dead right out of the package.
  12. Full disclosure, I did not express that as a personal need because I do own at least a dozen sets of (very) old and new flatwound sets from various brands, including some Nylon Taperwound (indeed very close but not quite the same as an old dead Stainless) and I also own quite a few basses with flats or rounds.
    It was just my marketing idea of the day aiming at entertaining the good folks who hang out in the TB String section.
    So back to the concept, technically, an old strings, gets corroded, accumulates some gunk which leads to losing its elasticity and it's sustain making it less bright and more thumpy (and that's good) right?. So, can't they engineer them with those properties? Hey? Hey? Whatcha think?
    (I am also a member of a Tire maker discussion board called "Talktires" where I proposed the concept of selling pre-worn tires LOL!)
  13. bertbassplayer

    bertbassplayer Supporting Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    DFW, TX
    Hey good idea. Sell used D'addario, Labella, Rotosound flats for like the price of TI Flats. Pre-worn flats. That's like the idea of charging more for jeans that are beat up with holes in it right?
  14. skychief


    Apr 27, 2011
    South Bay
    Very good ideas in above posts! ^ ^ ^

    Tapes, Chicken wings, soak in motor oil:)eek:), Foam mutes @ bridge, etc.,,,,this stuff works for getting that beloved thump tone!

    Thank heavens flats break in quickly, so theres really no need for "pre-shrunken" flats.

    7 or 8 good hard hours of play time will usually break in a set of flats.

    If you're really hard-up (can I say that on TalkBass?) for some dead sounding flats, theres always the classifieds... :)
  15. ReiPsaeg


    Dec 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    They should be stock on those roadworn Fenders.
  16. Relic-ed strings, good idea!
  17. Exactly!
    Doesn't Seymour Duncan use an aging process on his Antiquity pickups? Something like that...The difference with used strings is they are not cut or twisted...
    Now we are going somewhere!
  18. No no, cut and twisted exactly the way an flat dead set would be if someone has been playing in bars for 20 years smoking cigarettes and spilling beer on their bass. They could even funk them up with real hot wings sauce so they smell authentic.


    Flat Dead is a great band name!
  19. With a few enigmatic stains of blood on it!
  20. Blood adds some serious funk