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Why I lost a bit of respect for Sting (Rick Beato Interview)

#401
I have a buddy who has worked security for many famous musicians. He has told me too many stories to repeat them all but suffice it to say that Randy Bachman, Mark Farner, and Jay Traynor ( Jay and the Americans ) were the most gracious people that he worked with. On the other side of the spectrum was Waylon Jennings and Ringo Starr. But one who could have rightfully have had attitude but was genuinely humble? John Entwistle.
 
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Opinions on the person aside, I think when an accomplished song writer/musician talks about their process - you listen. I learn so much from this candor; sometimes I have an artist's simple, self-describing words about their aesthetic or whatnot running through my head for months. Just pondering it. Applying it.

Just a few of the more recent ones were really great IMHO:

Pat Metheny
Sting
Ron Carter
Jacob Collier
Pino
Even that posted short Stewart Copeland one was good

Each one had something different to say, in a different way but yet it all sort of coalesced into the same fantastical stream. Honestly, it's beautiful.
 
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CarlMega said:
Opinions on the person aside, I think when an accomplished song writer/musician talks about their process - you listen. I learn so much from this candor; sometimes I have an artist's simple, self-describing words about their aesthetic or whatnot running through my head for months. Just pondering it. Applying it.

Just a few of the more recent ones were really great IMHO:

Pat Metheny
Sting
Ron Carter
Jacob Collier
Pino
Even that posted short Stewart Copeland one was good

Each one had something different to say, in a different way but yet it all sort of coalesced into the same fantastical stream. Honestly, it's beautiful.
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Womber said:
I have a buddy who has worked security for many famous musicians. He has told me too many stories to repeat them all but suffice it to say that Randy Bachman, Mark Farner, and Jay Traynor ( Jay and the Americans ) were the most gracious people that he worked with. On the other side of the spectrum was Waylon Jennings and Ringo Starr. But one who could have rightfully have had attitude but was genuinely humble? John Entwistle.
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I have heard that MANY times. A legend. Peter Drake teacher Hexham
 
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tb-player said:
I'm sure many of you have seen the Rick Beato interview with Sting and his guitarist, Dominic Miller. It was a fascinating look into songwriting, basslines, and (inadvertently) one gargantuan ego.

It was a great conversation. But when Rick began to discuss the other members of The Police (Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers), Sting stepped in and essentially gave himself credit for their contributions to the band.

At some points it was subtle. Others, not so much. But I found it to be very off-putting that one of my all-time favorite musicians showed so little humility in dealing with his bandmates.

Did anyone else notice that?
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That's one of the problems with making people out to be gods. It's really easy for them to start believing it. That rarely ends well.
 
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I'd love to see Rick Beato do an analysis/breakdown on some of my songs...simply because I myself don't really know what I'm doing exactly...I'm musically illiterate to a large degree. I go completely on the sound of things. Altho saying that, I probably wouldn't understand a lot of what he said lol.
 
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tb-player said:
I'm sure many of you have seen the Rick Beato interview with Sting and his guitarist, Dominic Miller. It was a fascinating look into songwriting, basslines, and (inadvertently) one gargantuan ego.

It was a great conversation. But when Rick began to discuss the other members of The Police (Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers), Sting stepped in and essentially gave himself credit for their contributions to the band.

At some points it was subtle. Others, not so much. But I found it to be very off-putting that one of my all-time favorite musicians showed so little humility in dealing with his bandmates.

Did anyone else notice that?
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He's a prat.
 
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"At some points it was subtle. Others, not so much. But I found it to be very off-putting that one of my all-time favorite musicians showed so little humility in dealing with his bandmates."

Nothing new. You gotta remember he and Copeland practically hated each other in the Police, always fighting etc etc. Sting can never acknowledge it that's why he always takes the credit. The Police were truly the sum of their parts.. and yes Stings voice will always be debated as to how important it was, but dont ever disregard the other two......Maybe its time he didnt either.
 
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tvbop said:
"At some points it was subtle. Others, not so much. But I found it to be very off-putting that one of my all-time favorite musicians showed so little humility in dealing with his bandmates."

Nothing new. You gotta remember he and Copeland practically hated each other in the Police, always fighting etc etc. Sting can never acknowledge it that's why he always takes the credit. The Police were truly the sum of their parts.. and yes Stings voice will always be debated as to how important it was, but dont ever disregard the other two......Maybe its time he didnt either.
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Did he not credit them in the interview? :eyebrow:
 
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Talent and likeability seldom have anything in common. Sting, as a musician, is enviable. Sting, as a person, is someone I might prefer to avoid.

But the same can be said about many famous, talented musician. Also painters, sculptors, architects, writers, race-car drivers, chefs, you-name-it.
 
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