(Bassman)Hey Jeff. I have nothing but respect for your music and your willingness to stand by what you teach. What are your views toward studying music in schools such as the New school, City College(CCNY) etc. I am 48 yrs old and have returned to school (CCNY) auditioned and was accepted to the BFA Jazz performance program. I have learned so much in one semester, but we really move through things fast. Its also a grind and taking math and science is tough as well...maybe its the age.LOL! (JEFF) I don't know the details of those schools, but I do know one thing. If the classes are a little fast, ask them to slow down so that you can have the time to digest a little bit what they are giving you. If it is factual musical homework, then do it every day. Just take your time and think about it. If there are things that you don't understand, then ask about it in each class. P.S. I don't have a degree program at The Players School because I dont want guys studying "math" while they are studying music. Bassman) I also commute 3 hours to and from the city and gig as well. It seems much of my time is spent going in running from class to class, doing homework. It seems to me that studying with a top notch teacher once a week and practicing and hitting workshops and playing with others a notch or two better than myself could produce similar or better results. Can one attain mastery of the electric bass(Jazz and other genres)without a college program, if so how? Private teacher, the points you mention? Thanks man..... I appreciate your time. Craig[/QUOTE] JEFF) I don't know the goals that you have set for yourself. Perhaps a year of this crazy commuting is a good idea; just get it done and over with. Then you can find a great private teacher and continue in that manner. Private teachers can be absolutely unbelievable, some of the best instruction you may ever get. You just have to ask around and find the right people. I've studied with guitarists, pianists, sax players, pianists and vibes players. My suggestion is to find a great teacher, perhaps with one of these schools and study with them. But if the other classes are good then, be strong. You only have a little more time left for commuting. P.S. I hate commuting too.