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Why metal Bassists so much Rickenbaker Bass

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by samoth, May 22, 2001.


  1. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    Sorry for my English I m french....


    I listen a lot of metal and for 2 years I notify that more and more bassits like Bivor from Marduk and Grutle from enslaved leave there modern agressive and heavy bass for old rickenbacker......I never tried one (they are rare in France)and if anybody can explain me why it is so cool to play on it I listen to him


    Thanx a lot---------------------------> Samoth.
     
  2. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Salut Samoth.
    Je pense que deux choses les influences :
    le son "Rick" est très aggressif et assez porté sur l'aigu et le haut médium => donc elles "passent" bien dans le mix, d'une part.
    Leur ton est très reconnaissable en général.
    Peut être que les cordes très rapprochées conviennent à leur jeux ???
    D'autre part, elles ont un look un peu aggressif.
    Et puis des "grands anciens" comme Lemmy de Motorhead en utilisent ... une influence, peut être ?
     
  3. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    C'est surement pour ca .......Il utilise tout les deux des distos et leur aigus et mediums resortent beaucoup..............Et au niveau de la touche comment c'est...?
     
  4. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    That's exactly what I was going to say....

    ....only in english. :p ;)

    <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=8647027&p=47848260&Sequence=0&res=high">
    This is one of my Ric's & I love it!!!
     
  5. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Je ne peux pas te dire comment elles "jouent", car je n'en ai jamais essayé :D
    Mais il y a des fans de Rick ici qui t'en parlerons surement.
    ---
    I can't tell you how do they play since I've never played one.
    But there are some Rick's fans in here, and they will surely talk about it.
    Nino-Brown ?
     
  6. samoth

    samoth

    Apr 9, 2001
    France-Le pontet
    Saurait tu combien il faut compter pour ce modele et si il existe en 5.
     
  7. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Ummm...yes it comes in a 5-string model? :)

    [​IMG]

    (click on the picture ;) )
     
  8. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Pour le modèle en 5 cordes ... notduane t'a donné la réponse en image.
    Aucune idée du prix en France.
    --------
    Samoth asked for the availabilty and price of a 5 strings model.
    Notduane- you answered half of the question ;)
     
  9. Introvox

    Introvox

    May 21, 2001
    Ontario, Canada
    Just wanted to tell you all the story about almost buying a Ricky 5 String...

    I had the money all saved up, and my wife's blessing (which in itself was a chore).

    The cheque was to be made out for $3995.00CDN plus applicable taxes (15% here in Ontario), I wouldn't have bothered with shipping, my brother would have picked it up and delivered it from Toronto.

    Well for about a week I stared at pictures, and checked numerous websites, then I got into an email conversation with a tech from Rickenbacker (that's when I got the big letdown)

    He told me that a 5 String RIC, is not a true Ricky...It is not wired for stereo, and only has standard pickups (no Ricky p-up) He told me in order to create a 5 String version exact to the 4001 and others, they would have had to modify their entire plant...he ended with the statement "It only looks like a Ricky"

    What a letdown, but thank god I did the research, or there'd probably be a new RIC 4003/5 on ebay - hehehe.

    One other thing, it would've taken 6 to 8 months for delivery.

    Buyer Beware!

    Introvox
     
  10. Pau

    Pau

    Dec 8, 2000
    Madrid, Spain
    Et Cliff Burton (Metallica) rappelle toi de (Anesthesia) -Pulling Teeth et ses 3 min de solo de basse avec disto et Wah
     
  11. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    Exact. Mais Cliff n'a pas joué très long sur Rick il me semble, non ?
     
  12. Parlez en Anglais, síl vous plait.. je ne comprends pas tes posts.
     
  13. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    rick kicks ass!!!!!

    nino, what pickup are on your rick? single coil, houmbucker, horshoe....?
    thanks
    marco
     
  14. Pau

    Pau

    Dec 8, 2000
    Madrid, Spain
    Exact, mais il a un grand carisme pour sa façon d'avoir joué de la basse d'une façon aussi particulière dans un groupe de trash des annèes '80.

    Mais tu as tout as fait raison, j' ai peut être eu tort de le citer comme utilisateur de rick
     
  15. NJXT

    NJXT

    Jan 9, 2001
    Lyon, FRANCE
    You are right, sorry.
    Basically :
    Samoth was asking for the price and availability of 5 strings Rick.
    Pau pointed that another famous Rick user was, at the beginning, Cliff Burton.
    Well ... that's all.
     
  16. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Hey Marco, It has single coil pups. I saw Cliff Burton's name. This is a bass I sold a while back.

    <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=11627687&p=41238657">
    It's the same color as Cliff's bass. The pic was taken in 1994 when I was in my 1st band "Raising Cain". I wish I never sold it.:( Here is another pic of a Ric I owned.

    <img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=11627687&p=49025019">
    This was the 2nd bass I ever owned.
     
  17. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    ninho it seems that seymour duncan replacement humbuckers gives a more powerful output and bottom end to the rick, without changing the traditional sound. do you know something more?
     
  18. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    No, I don't. All the Ric's I've ever had all had original p/u's
     
  19. That sounds really wrong.
    A 5 string Ric is a Rickenbacker, as long as it came from the factory.
    Stereo (Rick-o-Sound) output wasn't standard on the 4001 (or my '89 4008 Redneck).
    As for the Ric pickups, only the original 4001 (and 4001v63 and 4001cs) had horseshoe p/u's in the bridge (all others have the "new" single p/u with a plastic chromed/colored cover).
    Older Rics (again, like my 4008) have a "toaster" p/u in the neck, newies (my '98 4003) have the new p/u there.
    And they can make a 5 string like a 4001 without changing the plant if they tried. It's only the pickups and electrics that are really any different (unless you *really* want the single truss-rod! :D )

    But $3995 CDN! Sheeit! I thought my 4003 for $3000 NZ ($2700 for cash, yay) was absurdly steep.