Why so many Old Smoothie's used for sale and is the Butterscotch ugly?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Gadgetech, Apr 4, 2018.


  1. MD Stingray

    MD Stingray Guest

    Jan 17, 2008
    I sold mine.

    When test-running it in the shop, I was overwhelmed with the play-ability, looks and ultra-smooth (duh..) sound.
    It was not long that the ultra-smooth sound became a bit annoying, especially in a band-mix.
    The Old-Smoothie in my opinion is lacking character. I had the same with the Reflex - too bland.

    The bass is not too blame -. It is a beautiful well crafted great sounding bass, just not my cup of Musicman tea.
     
  2. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001

    With the right set of flats these basses go from zing machines to thump monsters. Even with the flats I still roll the treble almost completely off. On my Classic 2 Band I have GHS Precision Flats and it is old school thump city. On my 3 band I either use TI’s or LaBella 760fl’s and I have a smooth as silk rock groove moister. Once again, treble almost off.

    Once I realized that those knobs moved and I didn’t have to set each Bass the same it became a very versatile instrument and not a one trick pony.
     
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  3. + 1 - and ultra rare!!
     
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  4. I have heard it said that Stingrays shipped with GHS flats until early 78 - as a die hard Bernard Edwards fan I keep meaning to put some on my Classic - have you tried the mutes as well Armybass? I recorded a couple of tracks with mine rolled on - increases the thump a lot - especially on muted notes.

    Agreed on the tone controls!! The other big tone changer is altering the plucking hand position or intensity - an oft used phrase but it really can be majorly in the fingers on a Stingray.
     
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  5. I have heard it said that Stingrays shipped with GHS flats until early 78 - as a die hard Bernard Edwards fan I keep meaning to put some on my Classic - have you tried the mutes as well Armybass? I recorded a couple of tracks with mine rolled on - increases the thump a lot - especially on muted notes.

    Agreed on the tone controls!! The other big tone changer is altering the plucking hand position or intensity - an oft used phrase but it really can be majorly in the fingers on a Stingray.
     
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  6. armybass

    armybass Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2001
    I have not used the mutes yet. I’m not sure why. It’s like ear candy I’m saving for a special occasion. :)
     
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  7. pudgychef

    pudgychef In Memoriam

    Jan 22, 2005
    Chongqing, China
    I find the EB original flats and Roto RS77s shine on Rays...currently quite like the Fender flats on my bongo and have LaBellas on my 3band Ray
    The Rotos always seemed best on my 2band USA SUB
     
  8. pudgychef

    pudgychef In Memoriam

    Jan 22, 2005
    Chongqing, China
    I would love an Old Smoothie as well as a Cutlass...but I want both in a modern musician package...12 radius, compensated nut ..
    Or...give me that Smoothie PU/Pre package in 4H bongo...even with dummy knobs , just let it be...
     
  9. CGremlin

    CGremlin

    Nov 1, 2014
    Palm Bay, FL
    I haven't been that interested in an Old Smoothie mostly because I'm very happy with my two BFRs. The only other StingRays I'm really itching to get are a Dargie Delight (with the martini glass inlays) and a Starry Night.
     
  10. Butterscotch is a Yorkshire England thing. Us Scots rarely ever use the name 'Scotch' as we consider it racist . Just saying.
     
  11. Jim C

    Jim C I believe in the trilogy; Fender, Stingray, + G&L Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Bethesda, MD
    I think the tone knobs is sometimes misunderstood on these basses.
    When I first got mine, I had the treble and volume full up and tried to make changes at the amp which wasn't that great a sound (for me).
    +1 about treble roll off.

    Here's something to try:
    Take a normal Fender bass, set the amp the way you like it and without playing, push the strings towards the body right before they touch the pup. The cone will move some.
    Now do the same thing with a SR. With the bass pot up and the amp adjusted for the same tone, the speaker cone will move much farther. The bass EQ offers some serious low end and must have a lowish center freq.

    I'm sure you all have heard this before but a fellow board member John K worked with or for Leo. He said the SR is so bright because Leo had started to loose some high frequencies in his hearing (like 90% of us geezers) and voiced it brighter so it seemed good to him.
    Not because he wanted to create the first bass that would cut glass.
    Or something like that.
     
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  12. Mildew Jones

    Mildew Jones

    Dec 18, 2014
    The pickup size was something I pondered when I first saw these; I'm def. a pickup anchor type, playing on the E string would take some adjustment for me (wish I could bend my R thumb like Jaco). I am intrigued by the flats on a Ray premise, mine's been sitting in the corner for a decade (OK, used it a coupla times a few years ago), as it's just too sizzly/hot for my tastes now. I love to cycle through my basses, Ima gonna slap my GHS flats on her and see how it sounds...have a feeling I'm gonna like. These flats still have some sheen to them, I'm surprised as I did have them on a P for a couple years, it got some play...let's see what happens.
    MJ
     
  13. @drTSTingray Would you be willing to post the videos you referenced so we can hear your Smoothie in a band setting?
     
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