wich of these 3?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by therex, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    i am looking to upgrade my gear next year so i got 3 options
    1.-save money for bass with these characteristics
    it must have a thin neck
    must be active
    just 4 strings
    rosewood neck
    it could be a P/J or P/M(the ones stingrays got)
    if the P pups is inverted like in the sr300 it would be great
    if it is black or black and white that would be great but if no it would be ok
    suggestion please
    2.- ibanez atk300rsp
    3.- obregon(i live in peru so most probably you havent hear of this brand) custom bass with my specifications already mentioned but with quarter pounders
    do you think a hand made bass can be best than my gsr200?
    these obregon guys do some nice guitars
    BTW i play mostly punk/pop punk
  2. Shadyskull24

    Shadyskull24 Guest

    Aug 22, 2007
    Northville, NY
    Ibanez, nice tone solid all around
  3. irvinz


    Nov 23, 2006
    has too much gas
    an atk
  4. playibanez

    playibanez Guest

    Apr 3, 2006
    i played an atk 5 string the other day. very impressed
  5. *smb

    *smb Guest

    Nov 26, 2006
    Have you played an ATK? It does not have a thin neck at all. If those specs are your dream specs I'm not sure you'll like the ATK. I love mine though - it's great.
  6. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    i thnik i handel the atk`s neck how fat can it be?
    as far i as have read is more or less the same that my gsr200 so it is okay
  7. JaySeeDoubleYou

    JaySeeDoubleYou Guest

    Sep 19, 2007
    Des Moines, Iowa
    MIM Fender Deluxe Precision Bass Special.

    It's active, it's got a P/J setup, you can get rosewood. It's got a P-Bass body, and a J-Bass neck for fast action. It has a 3-band EQ, and at $599, it's not that expensive.

    Also, I know you want active, but if you decide later that you want active and passive, I got mine modded for cheap, and it was an easy mod. So you could do a lot of playing around with it.

    I heartily recommend it!
  8. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    you mean you can mod the to be both
    like with a switch or something? thats awesome!
  9. Baird6869

    Baird6869 Supporting Member

    +1. Add a Sadowsky Preamp/DI stomp box if you need active.
  10. swrbass5

    swrbass5 Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 18, 2002
    Coastal NC / SC
    I agree with JaySeeDoubleYou >>>> I had a USA Precision deluxe ( the MIM is close) and wish I'd never let it go. Great everything. Can you get your hands on the G&L Tribute basses? Although, That ATK is impressive. It's got to be the closest thing to a Stingray that's in that price range.
  11. JaySeeDoubleYou

    JaySeeDoubleYou Guest

    Sep 19, 2007
    Des Moines, Iowa
    Yeah. I had it done, I didn't do it myself. But the way we did it was remove the pickup selector knob and install a pickup selector switch. We replaced the midrange pot with a push/pull pot. The push/pull pot governs active/passive. The treble and bass knobs stayed the same, the midrange works the same too except that it's now push/pull. The master volume has become the active only volume, and where the pickup selector knob used to be, there is now a stacked pot that governs passive only volume, and passive only tone.

    So, originally, it was only active with a master volume, pickup selector knob, treble/bass stacked knob and mid knob. Now it's active volume knob, passive volume/tone stacked knob, treble/bass stacked pot (active only), and midrange push/pull knob (mid control only works in active) It also has a mini three way toggle switch that serves as a pickup selector.

    The beauty of having two separate volume knobs, as well as separate tone control settings for active/passive is that you crank the passive volume, dial in the passive tone you want, then switch to active, dial in the eq settings you want, and then scale down the active volume knob til the active and passive are the same volume. Then, you'll never have to mess with a volume or tone control, all you'll ever have to do is flip the toggle to switch pickups, and use the push pull pot and everything is at your disposal.

    The whole project only cost me about $80. You'll need a 500k push/pull pot, a 500k stacked pot, a mini-toggle switch, a dremmel to make a place on the pickguard for the mini-toggle, and then either the skills to solder everything yourself, or else have someone who will do it for you and you'll be set....and, of course, you'll need knobs to sit on your new stacked pot (good luck finding ones that match!)

    The -only- downside to this setup, is that when you first plug the bass into the amp, before you turn the volume up, you'll wanna work the push/pull a couple of times because if you don't, when you switch the first time, you'll get a loud pop. Adding a capacitor will take care of that, but I haven't done it because I don't wanna take the chance of jeopardizing the purity of my passive sound, because from the time you get past the push/pull pot which is right behind the pickup selector switch in the circuit path, all the way til you get to the output jack, which is the tail of the circuit, the passive and active circuits are totally discrete. You don't have to mess with the compromisy situation of going through one path to get to the other. Doing the push/pull/push/pull a couple times before turning it up is no big deal to me.

    But that's how I did it and it gives me an enormous amount of options. Ironically, about 99% of the time, I leave it in passive P-only mode, so for my purposes, I could just as easily have a standard passive P. Except every now and again, in the middle of a song, it's nice to switch from passive P sound to active P/J sound for more dynamic moments! That's another thing: trust me, you will become addicted to being able to switch from active/passive on the fly. :)

    I did up my deluxe active J 5 the exact same way. Only I couldn't find a knob to match, so that's kind of ugly...oh well.
  12. Jeff K

    Jeff K Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2005
    Memphis, TN
    +1. The ATK's have a big old chunky neck. Personally, I really like them; but if you're looking for something with a thin neck, you won't like the ATK.
  13. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    well then maybe the ATK is not my style
    but what about a custom made bass by a local luthier?
    do you think is it posible to make a quality bass without the big machines that guitar factorys have?
  14. ggunn


    Aug 30, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Yes, of course, but that doesn't mean that just anyone can do it.
  15. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    well i`ll try to search for some photos of thier guitars(of the local luthier) and you tell me what you think
    to be honest they look damn well made but i am not an expert in gutars
  16. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    here i post 2 images i will post more in a while
    sorry for the low res but thats the best i could find

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  17. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    here are more images

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  18. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Born under punches

    Aug 21, 2006
    Denver, CO
    It's pretty difficult (if not impossible) to judge a bass based on pictures. If they'll let you play one of theirs, and you really dig it, then go for it.

    As for an active bass with a thin neck, a used Carvin comes to mind. They are great value used. Of course, their default fingerboard material is ebony, but they have rosewood boards as a no charge option. It might be hard to find used. Still, a no frills, active Carvin B4 with a rosewood board prices out at around $700.

    My has a few added options (including a RW board), and I love the thing.