WinISD Pro

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Joe Louvar, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    When I modeled (WinSID Pro) two vented 3015’s with four 4” round ports against one 3015 with two 4” round ports the 215 seems to have a smoother freq curve with less bumps and dips expressly with the 215 cab tuned to about 51Hz. I’m new at playing with WinSID and still learning so I may be missing something - but if not, can anyone explain why this is?

    Thanks
     
  2. Chef

    Chef In Memoriam

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    I think you mean Win ISD, not SID.
     
  3. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Joe, what are the respective cab volumes you are modeling? I'd be happy to run the sims myself and see what I can suss (if anything).
     
  4. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    +1. Oops, yes ISD - thanks Chef. Can you please fix the subject title for me? Thanks. :)
     
  5. Chef

    Chef In Memoriam

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    yep
     
  6. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Thank you. I’m not sure I understand the question exactly but I just went with the first vented 3015 on-axis box size that came up and only changed the # of drivers, ports, and cab tuning.
     
  7. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Thanks bro. :)
     
  8. will33

    will33

    May 22, 2006
    austin,tx
    If all else is the same and all you did was double driver count and box volume, the curve should look the same, just 3 db louder. If they look different, you may have something other than exactly double, or different levels of input power between the 2 models. If you see bumps on the right side of the chart, the listening position is set to some degrees off axis.
     
  9. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Thanks Will, no bumps on the right but the 115 has a low end bump where the 215 doesn't -and I'll check levels and etc - thank you.
     
  10. will33

    will33

    May 22, 2006
    austin,tx
    A higher port tuning and/or smaller box size per driver will give you that bump. You can also apply eq to the model, check you don't have one eq'd and not the other.
     
  11. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    thanks Will :)
     
  12. SoundAndFury

    SoundAndFury Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    Anything like WinISD Pro (or otherwise) for Apple computers?
     
  13. Exxcell

    Exxcell Guest

    Or anything like WinISD(for windows too). WinISD is super buggy or me.
     
  14. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Maybe, but I’m not sure. I download WinISD Pro Alpha from LinearTeam and on Windows 7 I have to use “Task Manger” to shut the program down - so there are some glitches/bugs.
     
  15. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Rpsands wrote a .Bat file to shut it down manually. PM him for details.
     
  16. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    That will leave you with either one or two drivers in the same size box. And that in turn will give you very different alignments and frequency response curves. ;)

    So now try starting from scratch for each iteration, or alternately start with one driver, then double the box volume when you switch to two drivers. The curves should be very similar once you do that.

    WinISD doesn't really "suggest" box sizes, instead it gives you a few classic alignments to get started with. Read on Joe...
     
  17. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Thank you very much - yeah, I've still got much to learn, but this is way cool.

    EDIT: Oh, and for anyone who would like to checkout WinISD Pro Alpha it’s free software and I downloaded it form http://www.linearteam.dk/default.aspx?pageid=winisd - I’m using version 0.50alpha7.
     
  18. That's the one I got and half the buttons don't work. Windoze XP2.
     
  19. Exxcell

    Exxcell Guest

    Ditto. Last update was 2005. :/
     
  20. Joe Louvar

    Joe Louvar Guest

    Jun 6, 2011
    Santa Rosa, CA USA
    Actually, I think it was last update in 2004? I’m running it with Windows 7 and it works - and version Pro Alpha 0.50alpha7 is what the experts here on TB suggested.