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Wooden Bridges not to be confused with covered Bridges

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Papajewrry, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. I'm in the planning stage of my first bass build. I would l'd like to do a four string fretless. I am considering a wooden bridge/tailpiece.
    Has this been done? Am I getting in over my head? Please help before I get in deep water.
     
  2. Something Like this?
     

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  3. envika

    envika

    Nov 27, 2007
    Bronx, NY
    They're not difficult to make at all, but they seem to be unpopular. Someone else would probably do better explaining.
     
  4. That is cool! Possibly simpler.
     
  5. Yvarg

    Yvarg Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Lake Forest, CA
    The main reason I would consider them to be unpopular is because it generally makes grounding to all of the strings a lot harder (unless you have a metal nut).
     
  6. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    It seems that with many active preamps, you don't have to ground the strings... still haven't figured that one out, exactly.
     
  7. I don't think my es-175 copy has the strings grounded.
     
  8. Lizooki

    Lizooki

    Feb 24, 2008
    From the how-to section....
    wood bridge tutorial ...

    That one is great, but it could be done simpler.


    Matt
     
  9. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    I make the simplest of wooden bridges... fine adjustability is nice, but I've found that I can intonate to within 5 cents just by rough0placing a straight bridge, and then I file in some compensation from there.

    Also, I think they just look more organic and clean.

    [​IMG]

    ::EDIT:: Of course, if you change string guages, you have to move the bridge around a bit, but since it's floating, it's not a bit issue.
     
  10. Son of Magni

    Son of Magni

    May 10, 2005
    NH
    Builder: ThorBass
    +1, that's exactly it. With active pre, the length of unbuffered signal is very short and can be done with co-ax. So there's much less opportunity for interference to hit your signal. I've only had to ground strings if using vintage design pups, or passive basses.
     
  11. Dirk Diggler

    Dirk Diggler Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Anytown USA
    Here's a solution that solves the grounding issues well. I did use existing Hipshot saddles the rest is Wenge and Ziricote.
    I ran a wire to the bottom of the one screw and that then contacts the copper sheet.
    [​IMG]
    I think it sounds great, good luck.
    Dirk
     
  12. That is a damn sexy bass...!

     
  13. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    Gorgeous! So what kind of piezo pickup would you install in a bass like that? Clearly that's your only option, and I'm guessing it'd have to fit under the bridge and use the string pressure to get it up and running.... or am I way off base?
     
  14. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    Link, please.... :)
     
  15. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    LOL... wow, that's a lot of interest, all of a sudden. Let me see if I can address your questions

    Thanks!

    I actually installed a MM pickup in it. The scale is short enough and the string spacing just narrow enough that the pole pieces don't quite line up on the E string, but it sounds balanced when I plugged it in. I'm going to record a cew clips sometime this week, and link them in the original thread.

    I considered a piezo pickup, and if I was to do that, I'd laminate it into the bridge, so that it was close to the strings. I might even have used a bone saddle at that point.

    I was installing the electronics last night, and I had to route a little deeper in the control cavity (my volume pot had a short shaft). While doing this, the router bit *moved* in the collet, and it it punched right through the top. I almost had a fit.

    I made a top-mounted wooden control cover (a la Carl Thompson), but it wouldn't have been my *first* choice, that's for sure.

    I'll update the thread here in a day or so, with pictures, sound clips, etc.
     
  16. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    What kind of piezo might you have considered? I have a bass that might need something like that...
     
  17. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    Likely I'd disassemble a GHOST setup and use those. I've heard that you get better string definition if you use a separate element for each string. On the other hand, I might have just gone with a standard element (maybe even something initially designed for acoustic guitar) embedded just under the surface of the bridge, or under a bone saddle.
     
  18. fretlessman71

    fretlessman71 Still beats havin' a job Supporting Member

    Aug 8, 2005
    FoCo, NoCo
    Would something like this involve cutting the bridge apart lengthwise (like a hot dog bun, maybe?) and installing it, then gluing it back together?

    I fear my questions are worthless without pics... I wish my camera was working...
     
  19. Rodent

    Rodent A Killer Pickup Lineā„¢ Commercial User

    Dec 20, 2004
    Upper Left Corner (Seattle)
    Player-Builder-Founder: Honey Badger Pickups & Regenerate Guitar Works
    this wooden bridge with a single piezo saddle sounds 'pretty nice'

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    a little bit of a pain to get the saddle just right, but then I haven't set up many acoustics before so I had a learning curve to getting it all right on the first try with that piezo saddle

    all the best,

    R