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working without a private instructor

Discussion in 'Ask Patrick Neher [Archive]' started by andJustice4all, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. andJustice4all


    Jun 25, 2013
    Hi! I'm new to the site, so I apologize if I'm doing something completely wrong here..... :confused:
    I was just wondering - I can't afford a private teacher, but I've been playing orchestral bass for 5 years now, and jazz bass for 4 years. I was taught the basics and have learned more advanced technique through my public school's music teacher and various smaller group settings. In addition, I've worked outside of school with Simandl method books and whatever else I can find. Do you have any tips for practicing and improving on my own? I'm a junior in high school, and I haven't ever even played a solo concert or worked with a private instructor, but I am passionate about my music, have been told that I am rather advanced (yes, by people other than my parents), and I'm willing to work hard. I really want to be prepared for college auditions when the time comes, because it's my dream to tour with a renowned orchestra or become a professional music therapist. So yeah, any tips on excercizes, techniques, books to work from, etc? Any help is really appreciated.
  2. PNeher


    Mar 31, 2005
    Bellingham, WA
    Seems to me that you are ready for a private instructor. You know you want to be the best possible that you can be, and like most people you realize a well-trained opinion is often needed to make "the leap" to the next level of ability. I cannot stress enough how important private lessons were to my musical development and my personal development. I became a teacher to share that and to allow others to excel beyond their perceived abilities. So... yes, get a teacher! (I am available BTW, on LessonFace.com)

    On your own, if you established a clear and dedicated methodology to practice and setting goals, challenging cognition, and providing live performance opportunities for yourself, you CAN excel. I do it still (I believe), but I established methods of practice, etc., with the help of mentors/teachers. One always needs the perspective of others to progress. (I'm pretty sure about that) Drop me a PM and we'll continue the discussion. Perhaps you will take the plunge ... ?
  3. Gavin Fogel

    Gavin Fogel

    Nov 13, 2014
    Get the f simandl. It is hell. Do every exercise and master the fingerboard. The next thing you need to do is get a concerto maybe, the cappuzi in f major, I don't know your skill level. Remember some rules when work through the capuzzi.

    1.) You are probably wrong, so pay attention closer

    2.) Is this the best possible finger you could have?

    3.) Move your contact point up when you get up into thumb position

    Also, work on indepent finger strength, trust me this will help. It will. A lot. Do it. Get them strong hands.

    Good luck!