Worried about my Sansamp PRogrammable Bass DI for pedalboard.

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by MovingPitchers, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. Hi I have the following effects:

    TU-3
    CEB-3
    Sansamp Tech21 Programmable Bass DI
    DD-3
    DS-1
    AFP volume pedal (cheap one)

    I read in the DI's manual that the Tech21 product should come before anything else except tuner since it doesn't do anything to the signal.

    I also read on this forum somewhere that it doesn't really matter...so which advice should I take?
     
  2. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    I was just asking myself the same thing today, mine's before everything but I think tomorrow I'll move it to the end of the chain, and I'm also thinking of getting a Boss Line Selector to put some fx on a loop and see if this make my pedalboard sound better. Right now I getting more volume from a sans-pedalboard setup and I don't like that at all!
     
  3. If you're using it as your DI it comes last.
     
  4. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62 Punch'n Ooomph Supporting Member

    Mine's been at the tail-end of the chain (see sig) for a couple of years now and it's doing fine in that spot. I followed the manual's instruction for the first couple of years and placed it around the middle spot and it worked fine as well. But if you want to use it as a DI, it HAS to be last. To my ears, there's no noticeable tone change when placed in that spot.

    Similar current thread:
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/where-do-you-put-your-sansamp-995123/
     
  5. Steveaux

    Steveaux Safe-Guardian of the Stoopid Supporting Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    The Wilds of NW Pa.
    That's not what it says.

    From the Manual;

    "PLACEMENT ORDER OF OTHER EFFECTS
    One of the key attributes of any SansAmp is its responsiveness to the dynamics and nuances of your playing
    technique. In most cases, your bass should be plugged directly into the SansAmp.We suggest experimenting
    to find the order that’s best for you.
    As a general guide, we recommend:
    Place the following effects BEFORE SansAmp PBDR: Wah-Wah, Pre-Amp, Compressor, Fuzz Box, Envelope Follower.
    Place the following effects AFTER SansAmp PBDR: Chorus, Delay, EQ, Pitch Shifter, Reverb.
    NOTE: Low quality digital effects placed after SansAmp PBDR may compromise your signal and degrade the sound."

    http://www.tech21nyc.com/support/manuals/sansamp/BassDriver-Prog-OM.pdf
     
  6. um, suggesting that one experiment with placement (in a manual! of all places) suggests to me that the previous bassists' posts are probably correct about it being a non issue. technical manual writers are rarely bassists.
     
  7. cableguy

    cableguy

    Jun 4, 2009
    North Bend, WA
    This.....
     
  8. tech21nyc

    tech21nyc Commercial User

    Aug 17, 2010
    Manufacturer: Tech 21
    Because the SansAmp circuit is emulating a vintage tube amp we suggest using gain type effects, fuzz, OD, compressors, dist. etc before the unit. Time domain effects like delay and reverb normally sound better after the unit if you are using it for distortion. If the pedal is set clean it doesn't much matter. Chorus, flangers, octave pedals etc are more personal preference.

    If you are using the XLR out to the mixer you need it last unless you have a DI after it. Some effects will change the tone after the SansAmp so it's really up to the end user to experiment and see what works best for their application.
     
  9. Thanks, Tech21!