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Would you do this trade?? Squier VM Jag V and Affinity P for Cort Curbow 5

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by awilkie84, Oct 22, 2013.


  1. There's a guy on a local gear buy/sell/trade site that has a Cort Curbow 5 string (the one with the EMG40 style Mighty Mite pickup). He's looking to trade for another 5-er.

    I initially offered to trade him my Squier VM Jag 5, but he declined. So, I offered to sweeten the deal with a Squier Affinity P-bass (upgraded with SD 1/4-pounder, CTS pots, a BWB Pickguard & a P-up ashtray).

    He wants to see pics, so I'm going to take some when I get home. What I'd like to know is if anyone else would do this deal, if you were in my shoes.

    I've only played 1 or 2 Curbows and they were interesting. Don't know how I feel about an ebanol board, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

    Am I offering too much, or is the Curbow a bad bass?
     
  2. If it's the Cort Curbow like in the pic below, there is one thing you really need to check first: Whether the neck is an older 1 piece or a newer 3 piece neck. I had a fretless with the one piece neck, and it ended up bowing past the point of recovery, and I had to deal with the US importer for several months to get a replacement.

    As far as your value goes, I'm not sure what one of the used JAG VM5's would go for used, since retail is $250 and I understand people have bought them for less. Affinities seem to go for less than $200. I've seen Cort Curbow 5's go for anywhere from $200 to $400. But check on the neck!

    PS: If you're looking to move your Jag 5, shoot me a PM....:bag:

    cort-curbow-5_3.
     
  3. It's similar to that one, but it's a swirly red colour and has a Mighty Might (EMG 40 style) pickup in it. It doesn't appear to be a bolt-on, though.

    No idea what the VM Jag V would go for used. Have yet to see one come up. I'm quite satisfied with it, but I like the look of the curbow & that pickup housing makes it an easy mod platform for using parts that I already have from when I modded my Spector ReBop. If the B string is solid, and the neck's good, I may just go for it. :)
     
  4. I would not make that trade.
     
  5. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member

    I would not even entertain that trade. The Jag was a pretty fair offer depending on condition, if anything maybe $50 on top of the jag but certainly not that P with the mods done to it.
     
  6. Thanks guys. I'll keep my Jag, then. :)
     
  7. Yeah, good thing. That's way too rich a trade offer. I always think to myself in trades - what if his bass was for sale and my bass(es) were for sale, what would they we worth, and then is it relatively equal? In this case, I think its clear the answer is that it would be truly in his favour. If it is a bass that you absolutely HAVE to have, then different story. But otherwise, list your basses for sale and muster up the cash to buy his outright.
     
  8. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    Good choice. It's not a fair trade if you were trading both your basses for the Curbow. I've had 5 curbow basses including the red swirly one you mentioned. Nice basses just not worth 2 for 1.
     
  9. I didn't realize before yesterday that the Curbows went for so little money. I've never seen one in a shop, so I don't know what they retail for. Searching for them online doesn't help, either. All the listings are expired, with no price postings.

    I'll try again to talk him into a straight up trade for the Jag, provided I like the Curbow when I try it. Failing that, I'm pulling my deal.
     
  10. BBox Bass

    BBox Bass Supporting Member

    Apr 2, 2011
    NW Pennsylvania
    I recently bought a couple of near-mint used Curbow 5s on Ebay. I think they're great, but neither cost me as much as the OP's 2 basses combined. Lately, the blue, black, and red ones have been selling for between $200-$300, and those with swirled and crazed finishes tend to fetch a little more.
     
  11. No.
     
  12. Given that the Jag new was $250, plus $20 on knobs, and $26 on new strings, that's $296 +TAX that I've spent on that bass. With depreciation, you're looking at $180-200 for the value of the bass stock? I spent $130 on the Squier, $30 on the pickguard (10 years ago), $70 on the pickup and $25 on the pots. That's $285 +TAX for that bass. With depreciation, you're down to around $200, or less. So, a combined total of $380-400. That would be around the ballpark of the swirled Curbow, wouldn't it?
     
  13. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    I bought all my Curbows online at Guitar Center. They were all used and ranged in price from $150-200. All were near mint, one of them in the "ice crazer" color even came with a hard case. That one was $180. You can of course order from any Guitar Center in the country, just pay the shipping of about $20-25. I've noticed though that prices went up a bit as of late. Currently there is a five string ice crazer going for $229.99. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-CURBOW-5-SILVER-109470503-i3434512.gc One advantage of buying it from Guitar Center is you can get a refund from any local store if it's not up to snuff.
     
  14. Good to know. I wonder if it would be challenging to get them to ship to Canada, provided I can get reasonable prices for my Squiers.
     
  15. hover

    hover

    Oct 4, 2008
    Massachusetts
    Heck no. Not even on my worst drunken stupor.
    ;)

    Especially if it's made of luthite.
     
  16. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    There's actually an orange crazer five string for sale on GC for $199. Price is listed as $299 but it went down in price on the more localized listing. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-CORT-CURBOW-5-STRING-BASS-109266814-i3278584.gc

    One thing I should mention is that all the Curbow basses I've had are all bolt-on. Including this bass (which cost me $150 although, come to think of it, it was on sale for $120), Is this the finish you're interested in -although this is the 4 string version? If so, this particular finish on a curbow is harder to find these days- it's an earlier model.
     
  17. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member

    It does not work quite like that. Mods do not translate to value, ever. The added value of new strings and knobs is maybe $5. The Jag would be lucky to fetch $200 on the used market. The Squier has more put into that it is worth, with the SD's the bass might get $150 from the right buyer but realistically that is a $75-100 bass. The used Curbow is worth $200 up to maybe $300 if somebody is willing to pay it. The thing about it is though, the Jag will be a fairly quick and easy sale at $200(ish) the Curbow even at $200 is still a hard sale. That is my logic behind the Jag being a totally fair offer and why I feel a top offer would be that plus $50.

    Also, I am sure some guys love them but as a person who has bought and sold many of the entry brands, Corts were always pieces of **** in my experience. I would not own one. I admittedly have never had a Cort Curbow outside of the store.

    If you do end up making the trade, be sure to post some bass porn.
     
  18. ^^ I'm with this guy. Mods don't amount to much & if it's a "try out" sort of bass, I don't usually pay more than half the price of new and when I have I lost money on the re-sell.
     
  19. Maxdusty

    Maxdusty

    Mar 9, 2012
    Michigan USA
    Good points on the evaluating the trade value.
    I've had over 40 basses in a span of 2 years (part of an experiment really, started off with one purchase and kept rolling over the profit in selling them and trying to find more that would generate even more profit-kind of like the paperclip experiment but with basses). My benefit, getting to try quite a number of different brands and models- it was a nice hobby and fun going to pawn shops and garage sales. Found many unusual and expensive ones, mismarked, underpriced, what have you. I've sold 35 of them, kept a handful that are personally worth keeping. Curbow basses are actually pretty good compared to the other Cort basses I've tried. I've sold each one of the five Curbows I've had for quite a hefty profit as the unique shape and playability attracted a lot of bassists. Yes, it's still essentially an entry level bass, but a pretty good unique one. Surprising as I held a similar view on Cort instruments in general until I got to try the Curbow bass. One particular quality about them is that they're treble/mid type of basses much like a lot of the Ibanez basses out there, punchy kind of bass. Curbows can easily be sold for over $200 if you don't like it but I still wouldn't trade 2 for 1.
     
  20. I factored that in when coming up with my "value" of the basses. If you notice, I put $200 on the Jag STOCK. I wouldn't add more for cosmetic changes or strings.

    As for the P-bass, the only value I really factored in was the Pickup change.

    I've attached a copy of the pic of the specific bass I'm looking at.
     

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