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Would you play the birds turn,turn,turn at Church?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by MAJOR METAL, Jul 9, 2005.


  1. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member

    If you organize or have any input in the music being played at your Church would you play this song?.I am giving it some serious thought to playing it at my church.
     
  2. When I played with my church's choir (on guitar :bag: ) We played it during mass.
     
  3. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member


    Thats what i would be doing except i play bass. :bassist:
     
  4. yes then, i would recommend it.
     
  5. yes. absolutley. who cares about the religous persuasion of a song writer. if the song has a message that works with the message that you're presenting on sunday morning...then go for it.

    we're playing the Foo Fighters "Best of You" tomorrow at our church. let me know how it goes.
     
  6. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member


    I have a friend who is a youth minister and he and i were talking about that very song used in a worship/prayerful way.
     
  7. lefty

    lefty

    Sep 25, 2004
    i think it would be cool, are you going to play it as recorded, or change it up a bit?
     
  8. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member


    We would probably keep the chord structure but bring our trademark sound to it.
     
  9. RLT

    RLT

    Jul 10, 2004
    South Central OH
    Why wouldn't an adaption of the first nine verses of chapter three of the Book of Ecclesiastes be appropriate for church?
    But to answer the question. Yes I would and Yes I have. I am lucky that one of my guitarists plays a 12 string so we can get a lot of the sound.
    It usually goes over quite well.

    Hardly any one remembers that the song was written by an avowed communist. And as an anti-war protest.
     
  10. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member

    Anyone know where i could find sheet music, chord charts or tabs for this song?.Thanks
     
  11. Rick Turner

    Rick Turner Commercial User

    Jul 14, 2004
    I design and build electric basses and pickups under the Turner, Renaissance, and Electroline brand names.
    I'd like to point out that Pete Seeger adapted the King James verses to music and is credited as the writer. The Byrds, being dyed in the wool folkies, learned it from Seeger. Good old Pete! Hope you aren't too red state/blue state, though. Pete took his knocks for liberal political views back when I was a baby in the 1940s. Of course it turns out that Pete was correct all along.
     
  12. Rick Turner

    Rick Turner Commercial User

    Jul 14, 2004
    I design and build electric basses and pickups under the Turner, Renaissance, and Electroline brand names.
    In reference to the "avowed communist" remark...I don't think that Pete was ever a "card carrying member of the Communist Party" though he certainly hung out in overlapping circles with some decididly left leaning folks.


    But, you know, this whole commie scare thing from the '40s and early '50s should really be put into context. In 1929, the stock market crashed due to a failure of the capitalist system to properly self regulate and police a bunch of really out of control greed kings. The result, of course, was the Great Depression which was enough to shake anyone's confidence in a system that was so corrupt that it would break the social contract that keeps us all more or less cooperating with one another. What pulled us out of the Great Depression? The biggest political shift to the left that ever happened in this country...the New Deal. What capped that off and led to the most universally prosperous time in American history? The Second World War through which (unfortunately) the future was mortgaged to pay to defeat Japan and Germany. What's happened since then? A slow, inexorable downward slide in the average American's real wealth fed by the upward spiral of consumer credit which masks the fact that we're all nearly broke. Yeah, we've got a lot of stuff, but is it really ours yet, and will it be worth diddly in 20 years? No on both counts. My artist and poet father and mother were never rich, but they had more than most folks I know do. For instance, they had no mortgage...they owned their house. They had no credit cards...they paid for what they bought. They made no car payments; when they needed a new car, they went out and bought it. How you all doing?

    Go get them, Pete! If that 1940s folkie thing is communism, it might not be a bad way to go... But it isn't communism, it's a form a socialism. How ya doing with health insurance, Americans? Like supporting a government that thinks that oil is the answer? Go buy a Hummer before they all turn into raised bed garden boxes... And if you're a real capitalist, buy it with cash.
     
  13. Roundwound

    Roundwound

    May 13, 2004
    Peoria, IL
  14. MAJOR METAL

    MAJOR METAL HARVESTER OF SORROW Staff Member Supporting Member

  15. Roundwound

    Roundwound

    May 13, 2004
    Peoria, IL
    I always have the same problem with this, too and usually I just wind up pasting everything into a word processing file and resizing it.
     
  16. RLT

    RLT

    Jul 10, 2004
    South Central OH
    http://www.lyon.edu/webdata/users/kadler/public_html/rmcguinn/turntab.html

    This is the tab supposedly release by Roger McGuinn.

    The avowed comment came from several interviews where Pete declared himself a communist.
    Usage as in:
    1 : to declare assuredly
    2 : to declare openly, bluntly, and without shame <ever ready to avow his reactionary outlook>

    Personaly I have nothing against the man and think he made some beautiful songs.

    Oh and if you're interested here's the Byrd Home page: http://www.lyon.edu/webdata/users/kadler/public_html/rmcguinn/
    "With pics and facts supplied by Roger McGuinn"

    And if any one wants it heres Chris Hillmans home page: http://chrishillman.com/

    Heres a quote from an Article on Seeger that shows the genius of the man.
    "Turn, Turn, Turn," which became a hit for the Byrds, was created more quickly. He found its famous words ("To every thing, there is a season…") in the Book of Ecclesiastes, jotted them down, and improvised a melody for it in five minutes. "I liked the Byrds' record of it very much," he said. "All those clanging, steel guitars — they sounded beautiful."

    Article is at http://www.grammy.com/features/2005/0107_seeger.aspx
     
  17. Rick Turner

    Rick Turner Commercial User

    Jul 14, 2004
    I design and build electric basses and pickups under the Turner, Renaissance, and Electroline brand names.
    I stand corrected, Seeger was a Communist Part member, but left in 1950 when it was revealed by Nikita Kruschev that Stalin had engaged in a reign of terror that nearly rivaled Hitler's. Stalin was just not quite so selective in whom he had killed, jailed, and exiled to the frozen hell of Siberia.

    Still, taken in context...1950 was only 21 years forward from the stock market crash of 1929...less time than we are now removed from the Vietnam war, a situation that still echos strongly in our society today. All you have to do is look at many of the homeless vets to see how devastating two decades can remain. Also, don't forget that Stalin was actually seen as an ally in WWII, though that quickly degenerated into the Cold War. Thank God it stayed cold...

    I would say that Seeger was and remains a somewhat impractical optimist. He fights the good fight, but may, perhaps, not look deep enough into all the issues.
     
  18. McHaven

    McHaven

    Mar 1, 2005
    I'd play with...with a B.C. Rich Warlock with a naked lady painted on it while dressed in tight leather and make up!
     
  19. Steve

    Steve

    Aug 10, 2001
    Hmm...here..in the very buckle of the bible belt..we're not exactly know for our religious tolerance. I've heard that song done several times in various church/ fellowship settings and it has always been very well recieved.
     
  20. I was in a christian rock band years ago... one time we played Black Sabbath's "War Pigs" in church :bag: