Hey all, Just wondering about 212 speakers. I seem to get mixed feelings about them and was wondering what you feel about them. Incase your wondering (or may have already guessed) I'm asking about the Avatar 212 cabinets. I've heard 12s are more for guitar and that I would do better with 10s or 15s. Then again, I read a bunch of harmony central reveiws that the cabs sound great so I'm not quite sure what to think. I deffinately heard a difference when I played between 10s and 15s (I was playing with a Peavey Tour 450 which I'm pretty positive I'll be buying). My combo I have now has a 12 inch speaker which sounds decent but then again, thats not the same head or bass I played in the music store. Would you rock a 212? Please share your thoughts, I'm new to amp stuff and want my first rig to big decent and last a long while. Peace and love everyone, Ryan
IME, 12's are not as deep as 15's. They behave more like 10's but are deeper. If you are a fan of 10's but do not find them deep enough(especially if you play with a low B string), 12's should be perfect for you. Of course, this is a very broad generalization as there are 10's that go plenty deep, but you get the picture. 12's rule and they are here to stay.
My Genz Benz Neox 212 has all the bottom of my previous Peavey 115 but has clarity and punch now too.
I voted yes because I am happy with my 1x12, and if I needed more sound, I wouldn't hesitate to stack two of them.
2x12 is my workhorse rig...I have a couple of 2x10s I've used with it on occassion as well, but I'd love to get a matching 2x12 for it! It's a one of a kind a friend built for me though, he's not likely to to build another one...
I have a set of avatars- 1 4x10 and 1 2x12. They both rock. I use the 2x12 by otself often. Together they're a war machine!
Everything I own is a twelve or a fifteen. My most-used cab is a Dr. Bass 2260 with 2x12, plus a mid-range driver and a tweet. Great cab for the money, and it's portable! That being said, I've been thinking a lot about Phil Jones cabs lately and the drivers he uses are some of the smallest I've ever seen used in a bass cab. Who knows, maybe old dogs can learn new tricks
The Bergantino HT212 is one of the nicest cabs I've played. The Berg IP212 (powered version) is no doubt even better!
Nothing bigger than 12's, stack them, if they present the B why go bigger for resp, if you need to move more air, use more 12's. Speed, not mud. Don't have them but always impressed by Aguilar GS112's
I own an Avatar B212 [i forget which speakers it has in it-i bought it in 2002 or 2003]. I played through it for i think my junior & senior years of high school. If it wasn't so huge/heavy-i'd take it with me to school. The sound was great-i greatly prefer it to my SWR WM12. The reason why i don't play through it much? I need as small and as light as possible as i don't have a car at school & it would be total overkill.
All 12's for me. Genz Benz Neox 212T is the gig cab .... it kills. Avatar Neo 212 parked at a practice space .. great cab for the $. Older Genz Benz 112T used for home and small jams. Put my GBE600 on top of any of them and they rock.
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