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"Wrong" notes in basslines on record..

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by nipperooney, Aug 27, 2007.


  1. nipperooney

    nipperooney

    Jul 5, 2007
    One of my favourite basslines is the Ronnie Wood classic from Maggie May. However it is littered with wrong notes (IMHO), where Ronnie misses the tonic of the chord and lands (briefly) on a variety of notes before hitting the right one.

    One of the more noticeable 'bummers' comes at 2'44" just after the first guitar solo when Rod sings "I suppose". The chord is an A and Ronnie hits a G, cuts it very short and then quickly changes to an A for the rest of the bar. There are loads more like this, some very subtle, but they all add to the charm.

    Are there any other stonking "wrong" notes in any commercial recordings that you know of, and I'm talking about bass notes that sound like actual mistakes, rather than an attempt at being "edgy" by just playing a dodgy note?
     
  2. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    On the final chord of "Rock And Roll All Nite" ("Alive!" version), Gene Simmons hits a D instead of an A which should be the last note (He picked the wrong string, most likely), but the mistake isn't that noticeable because he slides down the note. Anyway, just check the first attack of that chord and you'll clearly hear the guitars playing an Ab power chord and the bass hitting a Db (Half-step downtuned guitars and bass), which is definitely wrong in that context.
     
  3. notdavey

    notdavey

    Nov 2, 2006
    Seattle WA
    There's a rather noticeable wrong note played in Unchained Melody. I was in a wedding band years back and actually used to play the mistake (mainly to be a wise asss).

    Sting also made a noticeable mistake in Driven to Tears on the Life Earth broadcast (but hell that's live and not even on a CD / Recording).
     
  4. Johnny Crab

    Johnny Crab ACME,QSC,Fame/Hondo/Greco/HELIX user & BOSE Abuser Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    South Texas
    We cover some Hendrix stuff.
    Since listening to it 8 zillion times and each time trying to hear anything I'm either not playing or could play....I've heard a couple of similar millisecond wrong note-jump to right note things. I'll try to note the songs and timestamps this week and re-post.

    IMO, you will only find such human moments on older, one-take things or super-low budget things. 99.9999% of any "grace notes" today get digitally repaired. Even on live stuff.
     
  5. Rickenbrad

    Rickenbrad

    Aug 13, 2007
    in Mahavishnu Orchestra's "one word" during the beginning of the bass solo, Rick Laird slides up to the wrong note briefly (hes still a great bassist tho)
     
  6. Johnny Crab

    Johnny Crab ACME,QSC,Fame/Hondo/Greco/HELIX user & BOSE Abuser Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    South Texas
    Wind Cries Mary about 1:18...seems to slide to the "correct" note...unless it's a very unique way of using a hammer-on to start at a lower note.

    Little Wing 1:16~1:17 oops/stop note/play "corrected" note

    First thing out the chute in Red House(studio version) about 0:15~0:16.

    There may be more but I gotta practice since The House Ain't A Rockin(home alone, gig tomorrow, children at marching band practice).:bassist:
     
  7. bassist15

    bassist15

    Mar 6, 2006
    Indiana
    I wouldnt say they were really mistakes...I mean theory wise maybe they are but they might just play them that way ( in the case of Hendrix or Ron wood) .
     
  8. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    Unfortunately I can't remember in which magazine it appeared, but I have somewhere an interview with Noel Redding saying that he started playing a different section in the outro for "Fire" and quickly realized his mistake, but the track was left that way.
     
  9. I know there's a noticeable bad note or two in the Dave Clark 5's "Can't You See That She's Mine"
     
  10. browner

    browner

    Jul 22, 2006
    London
    Isn't that Ronnie Laine?
     
  11. nipperooney

    nipperooney

    Jul 5, 2007
    Well, I'll be honest, I didn't know who played it until I researched before I started this thread and I found this on Wiki..

    Of Course, Wiki isn't the most reliable, but who am I to argue.

    "Maggie May" is a song written by Rod Stewart and musician Martin Quittenton and recorded by Stewart in 1971 -- a solo work under the Mercury Record label, not involving his group The Faces, who were contracted with Warner Brothers (though several members of The Faces appear on the album that this song comes from, Every Picture Tells a Story; and Ronnie Wood plays all the guitar and bass parts). The song expresses the ambivalence and contradictory emotions of a young man involved in a relationship with an older woman, and is thought to have been written from Stewart's own experience.
     
  12. dvh

    dvh Supporting Member

    Sep 1, 2006
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    I just picked up on that for the first time the other day. You can hear him going back to the opening riff right at the end the fade.
     
  13. hbarcat

    hbarcat Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2006
    Rochelle, Illinois
    In "The House of the Rising Sun", the well known cover version by The Animals, there is a very obvious clinker toward the end of the solo. The bass lands squarely on the wrong note right on the one (I think he hits an 'E' instead of 'C') but then corrects it.
     
  14. You mean that wasn't intentional? I've always liked that fadeout part.
     
  15. MixBass

    MixBass

    Feb 23, 2006
    L.A. Harbor
    Co-founder. GrabAxe
    Sting on "So Lonely" in, IIRC, the gtr solo. Plays the 6 where 5 chord happens. Mind you from what I've read, they did the whole record in a couple days.Great record.
     
  16. gustav

    gustav

    Mar 11, 2006
    Västerås, Sweden
    theres two songs i for looong has.. oh, english is hard.. dont manage to write..

    lazy sunday with the small faces.
    man.. now i dont here it.. but i think its somewhere in that brake 1:20.. anyone else that has heard it? he like.. dosnt let his tone ring out..


    born to be wild
    oh.. im to tired.. cant hear it here either.. well, its like the same as in lazy sunday. somwhere in the riff. anyone?
    haa NO!! NOW. after three times.. in like 0:40 he misses a note..

    maybe this is irellevant in this thread.. haha piss..

    ooh: theres a small one in hocus pocus to.. where he does a little crazy thing.. 5.15.

    wrongdetective for life
     
  17. Baryonyx

    Baryonyx Banned

    Jul 11, 2005
    Marathon Man

    However, that song is so horrible it probably goes largely unnoticed!
     
  18. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    Yes. I remember that. He plays the 6 (B) and immediately slides down to the 5 (A) during the guitar solo.
     
  19. Feast

    Feast

    May 12, 2007
    Massachusetts
    in turn it again by the red hot chili peppers, it is very suttle but at about 54 seconds, the lead guitar part seems to have slid to a wrong note or muted it.
     
  20. BassLand

    BassLand

    Mar 20, 2000
    Lost Angeles
    One Word "Moondance"
     

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